speeding tickets / radar - laser detectors - Page 3

Bimmer4125 · #21 02-25-2009, 03:35 PM

You need to remember that a speeding violation is composed of four components - verifying accuracy of speed enforcement equipment, visual observation and speed estimation of violator, utilizing tested equipment to verify speed estimate, verifying accuracy speed enforcement of equipment. The equipment utilized is only to verify the speed estimate made by the officer. In New York, Troopers are trained and tested to estimate vehicle speeds to +/- 5 MPH and are able to issue violations based on visual estimates alone. The laser/radar/sky time/VASCAR is only an enforcement tool. That being said, when you are using a jammer and going 80 MPH, my laser might not pick it up (which is a big but because I've never seen a jammer work) but my eyes will tell me you're going 80. You'll still get an invitation to court. Best advice - stay with the flow of traffic and stay in the right lane as much as possible. Or put rolled up tin foil in your hubcaps.

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skiboats · #22 02-25-2009, 03:35 PM

Just bought a Passport Solo S2. So far so good

E61Silver · #23 02-25-2009, 03:47 PM

What is the real problem is that speeding is not necessarily unsafe.

The guy going slowing in the fast lane and the guy on your tail, is the person that is causing an unsafe condition.

E61Silver · #24 02-25-2009, 03:48 PM

In addtion Long Island speed limit is 55 yet most people do 65 or 70 on the LIE.

M6X · #25 02-25-2009, 04:06 PM

my 2009 x5 30i has an option in idrive to set max speed electronically. does OP have it too?

AzNMpower32 · #26 02-25-2009, 04:23 PM

I got a V1, it's waiting for me at home so I get to use it starting Friday afternoon

I'm not sure what to say: Usually speed limits are 25mph for a reason. Either school, residential, or town centre. And while I'm a critic of the Communisticalwealth of VA, I would never want to overshoot a 25mph zone. As one approaches a rural town, there are signs with "Reduce Speed Ahead" and it goes 55-45-35-25 very quickly. I usually start coasting and/or hit the brakes at the Reduce Speed signs because sheriffs here will park right after that 25 or 35 zone, so actual braking is required.

Then again, I don't know how they set speed limits in your state; in the South limits tend to be high (max. 70 in VA and NC) except for the aforementioned zones. Maybe the 25mph zone in your case was just a silly case of "revenue enforcement" rather than safety. Never driven in CT, so I don't know.

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Originally Posted by M6X

my 2009 x5 30i has an option in idrive to set max speed electronically. does OP have it too?

Any BMW with iDrive will have the Speed limit option. However, it's not going to be effective if the speed limit changes. In Europe beginning with the F01 7er, the vehicle will read the speed limit signs and tell you what the limit is. However that technology will not transfer for NA-spec models.

tonycajjo · #27 02-25-2009, 04:33 PM

the "i was keeping with traffic" is not a valid excuse.

so today i asked to verify that i was going 53, prove it. and the cop left and come back and wrote 45 on the ticket and said have a nice day. WTF?! crooked, if i was doing 53 write that down. if i asked to prove it then do so. show me the gun, the calibration paper, dont do me any favors. now its guilty until proven innocent. if anyone disaggees then youre living in the dark.

had some bad experiences with law enforcement lately, things i was found innocent of, so just a little venting

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On I91 near hartford if you go 55mph you'll see an accident either by some jerk swerving to miss you or hitting you.

Get the guy switching over three lanes, or riding unsafely close, or the clown in a car that looks like its gonna fall apart doing 85+, the guy without lights on at night, as well as the guy standing in the left or middle lanes, not the guy in well maintained vehile capable of traveling at 80+ mph.

primetime · #28 02-25-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by x54.4blue

What is the real problem is that speeding is not necessarily unsafe.

The guy going slowing in the fast lane and the guy on your tail, is the person that is causing an unsafe condition.

100%.

primetime · #29 02-25-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer4125

You need to remember that a speeding violation is composed of four components - verifying accuracy of speed enforcement equipment, visual observation and speed estimation of violator, utilizing tested equipment to verify speed estimate, verifying accuracy speed enforcement of equipment. The equipment utilized is only to verify the speed estimate made by the officer. In New York, Troopers are trained and tested to estimate vehicle speeds to +/- 5 MPH and are able to issue violations based on visual estimates alone. The laser/radar/sky time/VASCAR is only an enforcement tool. That being said, when you are using a jammer and going 80 MPH, my laser might not pick it up (which is a big but because I've never seen a jammer work) but my eyes will tell me you're going 80. You'll still get an invitation to court. Best advice - stay with the flow of traffic and stay in the right lane as much as possible. Or put rolled up tin foil in your hubcaps.

Are you saying that you're going to rely on your "eyes" and pull someone over when your gun is jammed? Rather then putting your gun on the car in the next lane over that the gun is reading accurately on and is definitely speeding? Which is more likely to happen?

And yes I'm aware that the training you've received is able to determine speeders from non speeders if the speeds are noticeably excessive. But 5mph? + or -?.. Accurately?.. ...

.. Either you're the best officer in all the land, or the cops around here aren't up to your standards..OR, the cops around here would rather catch someone on their gun that is definitely speeding and go after them while eliminating any chance of a reversal in court due to the evidence of excessive speed (i.e. laser gun reading, AND your eyes). Where i'm from, that seems to be the case..

The Cleaner · #30 02-25-2009, 05:49 PM

Isn't estimating speed based on comparing one vehicle to other on the highway? Seeing a car traveling 80 or 70 solo is not going to be easy to get accurate, but seeing a car going 80 in a group of cars doing 65-70 is easier.

I use the V1 not to detect Police but to detect Potential Police. If you use it as an alert to possible speed enforcement it will slow you down and provide a very formidably defense to speed enforcement. The V1 has a boggy counter and arrows that greatly increase the accuracy of detecting false's as well as when you pass a threat. Learning to use a V1 is critical to making it effective.

Jammers are a last defense for when you are caught off guard, you will also need to know how to use a jammer (especially in states where they are illegal) so you are not identified as jamming.

I don't believe having countermeasures guarantees to stay ticket free, but I do believe if you take the time to learn how your V1 reacts, over time it will teach you how to avoid situations where you are in jeopardy of getting a speeding citation.

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