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Old 03-19-2009, 02:21 PM
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I also heard that a new F1 rule is, passing will only be allowed with a point by. Lead position driver must raise his hand out of the vehicle and signal to the overpassing driver which side of the car he wants the overtaking vehicle to pass by. It can only be done on the straights. No passing in the turns. And the overtaking driver must come offline to complete the pass while allowing the overtaken driver to stay on the fast line.
First, this doesn't sound like racing anymore - if true. Are you sure this only applies in special situations?

I mean we're talking racing here. I doubt they have time, nor need, to coordinate "dances" just to pass some slow bugger!
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Old 03-19-2009, 03:46 PM
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I also heard that a new F1 rule is, passing will only be allowed with a point by. Lead position driver must raise his hand out of the vehicle and signal to the overpassing driver which side of the car he wants the overtaking vehicle to pass by. It can only be done on the straights. No passing in the turns. And the overtaking driver must come offline to complete the pass while allowing the overtaken driver to stay on the fast line.
that can't be true...
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Old 03-19-2009, 04:14 PM
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Of course it's not true...

We all know there is NO passing in F1
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Old 03-19-2009, 04:29 PM
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I have given up on F1, Bring back Can-Am.
a lot of people have given up on F1, MDI in france used to build F1 engines , they now build cars running on compressed air . cool stuff running cars on fresh air
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Old 03-19-2009, 04:35 PM
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Yep, know that. But I am no fan of Hamilton or McLaren (I refused to buy a MacLaren pushchair for my Daughter when she was born, even though the two companies are not related!) - the only upside to Hamilton winning last year was that Ferrari lost! Although they did win the constructors championship (booo!).

As to other examples (apart from 1958 above) which would've changed the outcome:

Jim Clark in 64 and 67 rather than Surtees and Denny Hulme
Mario Andretti in 77 rather than Niki Lauda
Alan Jones in 79 rather than Jody Scheckter
Alain Prost in 81, 83 and 84 rather than Piquet, Piquet and Lauda
Didier Pironi in 82 rather than Keke Rosberg
Nigel Mansell in 86 and 87 rather than Prost and Piquet
Senna in 89 rather than Prost
Massa in 08 rather than Hamilton.

Thumbups for either Scottish or WilliamsF1 victories! (although admittedly 82 would've lost Williams a championship and 87 was neutral). 2009 is my 30th season of supporting Williams!
why not start a thread of F1 drivers with scottish place names, for example , STIRLING moss, lewis HAMILTON , jonny DUMFRIES , AYR TOWN CENTRE . and there are more.
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how was he disqualified by "pushing" his car. i meant pushing his car to the limit. all or none, his own car. run it hot. not push into a wall or smash into someone else. push the car to its full capabilities.

anyhow, the rules were different then too, a point was given for fastest lap, only the top 6 scores were take. moss only finished 5 races.

and im not sure if i follow you here:
He argued for them to take away his title, to be fair to Hawthorne.
He got out of the car and pushed it down the track.

Moss won the race. With Hawthorne's disqualification in the final race, Moss had the championship. Moss intervened with the race officials, and supported Hawthorne's appeal. The disqualification was overturned. Hawthorne got second pace. With the points from that 2nd, he won the championship, beating Moss. In the spirit of gentlemen drivers, Moss ended up giving up his title by supporting Hawthorne's appeal.
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He got out of the car and pushed it down the track.

Moss won the race. With Hawthorne's disqualification in the final race, Moss had the championship. Moss intervened with the race officials, and supported Hawthorne's appeal. The disqualification was overturned. Hawthorne got second pace. With the points from that 2nd, he won the championship, beating Moss. In the spirit of gentlemen drivers, Moss ended up giving up his title by supporting Hawthorne's appeal.
oh, so he literally pushed the car that is fantastic. i was speaking metaphorically though.
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