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Krimson X · #**171** 05-27-2009, 10:33 AM

Two words to describe game 4 of the ECF... RAFER ALSTON.

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Dannyell · #**172** 05-27-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Krimson X

Two words to describe game 4 of the ECF... RAFER ALSTON.

Exactly!

Low chance that Cavs will get passed Magic...maybe James can still put on a show in Cleveland...but I would expect ORL to finish them off on their turf...

JGQ · #**173** 05-27-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Krimson X

Two words to describe game 4 of the ECF... RAFER ALSTON.

Yes he single handedly brought the Magic back in the game in the second half. However, in a game where it comes down to the last shot, you can have your pick of things that factored into the outcome, be it Rafer's play, Allowing Howard all these dunks in overtime, lack of Cavs bench scoring... etc.

The overall theme of series has been the Cavs inability to defend the 3 point shot.

Game one: They allowed the Magic to come back from a 17 point deficit and allowed Reshard Lewis to take a game wining 3.

Game two: They allowed the Magic to come from a 23 point deficit mainly by not defending the 3 point shot.

Game 4: Same story not defending the 3 shot. Including the last Magic shot in regulation that put them up by two. For Heaven’s sake, they had Wallace defending Lewis on that shot!

Yesterday it was Allston, but it could have been anyone. What I’m saying is that when you have a repeat problem, usually it on the coach to figure it out… and his lack of meaningful adjustment is what doomed the Cavs yesterday.

JGQ · #**174** 05-27-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dannyell

Exactly!

Low chance that Cavs will get passed Magic...maybe James can still put on a show in Cleveland...but I would expect ORL to finish them off on their turf...

In most cases I would agree, but the manner of how they lost these games, I would say that the Cavs still have a chance to turn it around. They need to take it one game at a time. I'm not ready to bury them yet!

NOVAX5 · #**175** 05-27-2009, 02:06 PM

I dont see how you guys are still defending CLE losses. If it wasn't for that desperation three by Lebron, the CAVs would be done 0-4 by now. ORL owns CLE any every way. Howard owns their centers, that opens up the perimeter shootings. The game isn't about who is hot at a certain point, the game is about matchups. Since Howard dominate inside (look at what he did in OT) the game is open for ORL outside shooters. You can have Lebron score all his points and still lose the game because CLE doesn't match up well with ORL. They have 2 big guys who could shoot 3 any time (Rashad Lewis and Hedo) that means they could run small and big offense with same guys on the floor while CLE has to look deep into the bench rotation to defend it. There is no what if, could have, would have in NBA playoffs. And there is no CLE could have played different ways and take 3-1 lead. ORL responded every time CLE make adjustment and make them pay. Public opinion look at the games differently, Vegas knows how the game rolls out they make the public pays for the wrong thinking, ORL is 4-0 ATS against CLE. Thats why people should ignore the Lebron Hype and look carefully at matchups. When you analyzing games, you dont put your heart, emotions on a team.

Dannyell · #**176** 05-27-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NOVAX5

I dont see how you guys are still defending CLE losses. If it wasn't for that desperation three by Lebron, the CAVs would be done 0-4 by now. ORL owns CLE any every way. Howard owns their centers, that opens up the perimeter shootings. The game isn't about who is hot at a certain point, the game is about matchups. Since Howard dominate inside (look at what he did in OT) the game is open for ORL outside shooters. You can have Lebron score all his points and still lose the game because CLE doesn't match up well with ORL. They have 2 big guys who could shoot 3 any time (Rashad Lewis and Hedo) that means they could run small and big offense with same guys on the floor while CLE has to look deep into the bench rotation to defend it. There is no what if, could have, would have in NBA playoffs. And there is no CLE could have played different ways and take 3-1 lead. ORL responded every time CLE make adjustment and make them pay. Public opinion look at the games differently, Vegas knows how the game rolls out they make the public pays for the wrong thinking, ORL is 4-0 ATS against CLE. Thats why people should ignore the Lebron Hype and look carefully at matchups. When you analyzing games, you dont put your heart, emotions on a team.

I agree with most of that...but I still think u should lay off James...if he had better team mates than it would have been a different story...

Again Cleveland would not be here if not for Lebron...so really the way u talk about him is very underrated...

NOVAX5 · #**177** 05-27-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dannyell

I agree with most of that...but I still think u should lay off James...if he had better team mates than it would have been a different story...

Again Cleveland would not be here if not for Lebron...so really the way u talk about him is very underrated...

You contracdict yourself in your own words. " if he had better teammates " you kidding right? with the same teammates they won 67 games in regular season. They won home court advantage through out playoffs because of his teammates. What else? They dont match up well with ORL thats the point. Its not about his teammates, its not about him either. Remember CLE is overrated thats what kills public.

JGQ · #**178** 05-27-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NOVAX5

I dont see how you guys are still defending CLE losses. If it wasn't for that desperation three by Lebron, the CAVs would be done 0-4 by now. ORL owns CLE any every way. Howard owns their centers, that opens up the perimeter shootings. The game isn't about who is hot at a certain point, the game is about matchups. Since Howard dominate inside (look at what he did in OT) the game is open for ORL outside shooters. You can have Lebron score all his points and still lose the game because CLE doesn't match up well with ORL. They have 2 big guys who could shoot 3 any time (Rashad Lewis and Hedo) that means they could run small and big offense with same guys on the floor while CLE has to look deep into the bench rotation to defend it. There is no what if, could have, would have in NBA playoffs. And there is no CLE could have played different ways and take 3-1 lead. ORL responded every time CLE make adjustment and make them pay. Public opinion look at the games differently, Vegas knows how the game rolls out they make the public pays for the wrong thinking, ORL is 4-0 ATS against CLE. Thats why people should ignore the Lebron Hype and look carefully at matchups. When you analyzing games, you dont put your heart, emotions on a team.

0-4 if it wasn't for the desperation 3? The same could be said about Lewis's threes in games 1 and 4. These statements don't change the outcome, however they explain GREAT LeBron is.
I agree with you on the following: ORL owns CLE any every way (expet Lebron). On apaper, the Cavs are overmatched in the center position, and cant match up with both Hedo and Lewis. In the series so far, even Orlando's smalls dominated Clevland's smalls. All of this could be documented by the states, and the way the games went.
Now I ask you, why the Cavs had three games decided by one shot in which they only won one?

It is the Phenominal play of LeBron! and you are calling it hype... I really don't get it.

NOVAX5 · #**179** 05-27-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JGQ

0-4 if it wasn't for the desperation 3? The same could be said about Lewis's threes in games 1 and 4. These statements don't change the outcome, however they explain GREAT LeBron is.
I agree with you on the following: ORL owns CLE any every way (expet Lebron). On apaper, the Cavs are overmatched in the center position, and cant match up with both Hedo and Lewis. In the series so far, even Orlando's smalls dominated Clevland's smalls. All of this could be documented by the states, and the way the games went.
Now I ask you, why the Cavs had three games decided by one shot in which they only won one?

It is the Phenominal play of LeBron! and you are calling it hype... I really don't get it.

Here you go. Make sure you follow the posts a little carefully. Let me give you a in depth analysis.
CLE -9 at home game 1: ATS LOSS. 70% on CLE
CLE -9 at home game 2: ATS LOSS. 75% on CLE
CLE -2 away game 3: ATS LOSS. 65% on CLE
CLE -1.5 away game 4: ATS LOSS 65% on CLE

People meaning the public jump on Lebron Hype train and Vegas make them pay. When you analyze games, the only and best way to do it is looking at matchups. ORL owns matchups against CLE. I dont have to say it again. Public again meaning people like you think CLE has Lebron and he could take them all the way easily. Wrong thinking. Vegas is laughing all the way to the bank.

NOVAX5 · #**180** 05-27-2009, 02:44 PM

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...0-4 if it wasn't for the desperation 3?...

You get it right. I wish I am from OH so I could ride the Hype train with you.

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