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Old 05-16-2009, 05:06 PM
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Real road rage story

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Porsche owner run over and killed after confronting fellow driver in deadly L.I. road rage
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Old 05-16-2009, 06:17 PM
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Sad story. People are crazy. You never know what the next guy will do.

Sort of sounds like the big guy was on roids though.
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Old 05-16-2009, 07:15 PM
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Old 05-16-2009, 08:06 PM
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I feel for the kid... kinda wonder what pissed off the porche driver so much? Probably something stupid like getting cut off on accident or something.

Bunch of savages out there.
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Thank goodness for the younger guy that there was at least one witness who can corroborate his story that he was in fear for his life. It sounds like self-defense to me. Massive, aggressive man chases you down, bangs on your car, looks like he's trying to rip you out of the car, you're in fear and try to get away, he jumps in front of you car as you're trying to escape... you should get a pass on charges.
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Thank goodness for the younger guy that there was at least one witness who can corroborate his story that he was in fear for his life. It sounds like self-defense to me. Massive, aggressive man chases you down, bangs on your car, looks like he's trying to rip you out of the car, you're in fear and try to get away, he jumps in front of you car as you're trying to escape... you should get a pass on charges.
I feel for the kid, but I think the question remains is why did the kid have to run him over and kill the guy? If he had a weapon, I would understand...kill or be killed. But there's no mention of a weapon (granted the guy was a beast and could use his fists as weapons)...all the kid had to do is hit the Porsche driver enough to where he was injured. I'm sure everything is much more heightened and different when you're in the situation, but for him to stop a block away would appear to show more than just the intent to hurt, which is why I think the police are considering charges. I'm no lawyer, but that's how I'm rationalizing the situation. On the flip side, at least it was the rager that got killed and not the kid. Makes you think twice about getting angry over something that in the grand scheme of things is very insignificant.
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I feel for the kid, but I think the question remains is why did the kid have to run him over and kill the guy? If he had a weapon, I would understand...kill or be killed. But there's no mention of a weapon (granted the guy was a beast and could use his fists as weapons)...all the kid had to do is hit the Porsche driver enough to where he was injured. I'm sure everything is much more heightened and different when you're in the situation, but for him to stop a block away would appear to show more than just the intent to hurt, which is why I think the police are considering charges. I'm no lawyer, but that's how I'm rationalizing the situation. On the flip side, at least it was the rager that got killed and not the kid. Makes you think twice about getting angry over something that in the grand scheme of things is very insignificant.

I do believe the kid in the Altima went to go around and the guy jumped in front of him...


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"It looked like he was going to rip the kid out of the car," Messina said, adding that the Porsche driver was banging on the hood of the other car.

He said the Altima went into reverse, but there was another vehicle behind it. The driver cut to the left and the victim jumped in front.

"Next thing you know, this guy just went down - wham!" Messina said.

The Altima ran over him.
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I do believe the kid in the Altima went to go around and the guy jumped in front of him...
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"I heard his head rattling in the undercarriage," Messina said.
The Altima driver sped off, but stopped a block away and got out of his car. Messina, who had run after him, walked him back to police, who arrested him."
I've never run someone over before, but I would think that you wouldn't drive a block before stopping, especially if you know you just ran someone over. I would think the natural reaction would be to slam on the brakes. The guy would probably be dead either way, but having the guy under the car would make more sense if he was trying to get away and the guy jumped in front of the car.

Here's a video of the story and another report about it. Driver pleads not guilty in fatal road-rage incident -- Newsday.com
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Yeah, that report there seems to have more info in it, especially in the video... I'd say there was an altercation seeded by both sides, and we may never know the full details.

The report linked in the first post made it seem like the kid was scared and tried to go around, the vid in that last one said he came back, then simply ran him over.
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