Dont' get confused people. The man did some heinous things...NONE of which include killing a human being (Donte Stallworth most recent example suspended for the season, but will be playing next season you can bet on that) Vick did 2 yrs in federal prison.

Furthermore, it was the gambling on the dog fighting ring that gave him that hefty prison sentence..NOT the dog fighting and cruelty to animals....I don't condone what he did. He was wrong. He admits it every single day in the media. The guy made some mistakes, some big ones, but he didn't kill a human, he did not rape anyone, he made some poor choices and certainly in hindsight I'm sure he regrets doing it for whatever reason. Do you have to be a murderer or rapist to be a bad person? NO. Of course not. there are plenty of dispicable people out there, some much worse then others. In this case, i do believe he deserves a second chance and can and should be forgiven...Much more so, then say....a Donte Stallworth...My 2 cents.

Humans and many other species have survived on death as a necessity.

He and his clan were FULLY invested in cruel acts, deliberately and for PROFIT.

His jail time was for gambling was it not.?

To allow a piece of shit like this to be in a position of a role model, is beyond reproach. On his 60 minuntes interview, his demeanor was chilling. He has no remorse and IMHO he most likely really doesn't understand what the fuss is about.

hmmm maybe Ted Bundy will be able to get a babysitting license thus earning his relese from jail and contribute to society finally.

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Unfortunately for you....the Philadelphia Eagles, Tony Dungy, millions of fans, and most importantly Roger Goodell and the NFL dissagree with you... Role model? Allow? ..Role model's are parents and other positive influences in the community... Its up to the parents to the best of their ability to regulate who their kids should look up to. Not an NFL quarterback...Or any other athelete for that matter.

Pretty hard to tell any kid not to look up to athletes.

Also, Vick's has had plenty of chances in his life, but he chooses to surround himself with dirtballs. He just can't seem to stay out of trouble.

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Are you kidding?

The NFL has let greed override thier sense of civic responsibility. They once would not let ANY felon play. Once.

Role models would ideally be the parents.
Role models would ideally be strictly positive influences when compared to the overall values of the local community or society at large.

Neither statement is manifestation of reality. Both are simple purified ideological standards which cannot stand the test of society.

I wish.... I too lived in lollipop land and rode a unicorn.

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Yeah I hear ya, I do... But whether its "hard" to tell a kid to do something or not, is completely irrelevant. If everything was easy for parents it'd be a different world wouldn't it? Atheletes are not role models, period.

And "reports" are he has eliminated those "dirtballs" he surrounded himself with so to speak.. Whether thats true or not...time will tell.

I'd be curious if people think the NFL is better with Vick or worse now that he is back in.

I think the path the NFL is on will get them more ratings and attract more bad behavior. It's as simple as that in my opinion. For me, it's a really sad testament to what was once a real American classic. Class is all but leaving although there are lots of great players and personnel that are not like Vick. Sad day for the NFL. The NFL should become a work release program to killers, torturers, thugs, abusers and other great models.

While I certainly respect your position and comprehend what you're saying, you're missing the point. For every Mike Vick out there, or Pacman jones, or Donte Stallworth, or Rae Caruth, or Jason Williams (NBA player who "accidentally" killed his driver with a shotgun) etc, there are tons of model citizens who are professional atheletes as well. And if your standards of "test of society" ring true, and the parents aren't doing their job and "allowing" their kids to look up to atheltes, then why aren't they looking at the good guys? why only the bad ones so to speak?

To blame the athelete as being the reason why their kid is a thug or decided to run a dog fighting ring or rape someone, or drive drunk and kill someone is completely ridiculous..

I realize that he didn't kill a human, that's not what I'm basing my opinion of him on. Does he deserve a 2nd chance? Sure, in this situation, yes, everyone should be allowed to make a living, and he's paid his dues in jail. But 2nd chances notwithstanding, IMO, he's a piece of shit. Defending the defenseless and having compassion/empathy for animals who are tortured is 2nd nature to most, just because Vick has paid his penance doesn't mean I or anyone else has to forgive and forget, nor change our opinion of his character. It's about the person, not the football player.

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