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Hybrid Cars May Include Fake Vroom for Safety
Hybrid Cars May Include Fake Vroom for Safety For decades, automakers have been on a quest to make cars quieter: an auto that purrs, and glides almost silently in traffic. They have finally succeeded. Plug-in hybrid and electric cars, it turns out, not only reduce air pollution, they cut noise pollution as well with their whisper-quiet motors. But that has created a different problem. They aren’t noisy enough. So safety experts, worried that hybrids pose a threat if pedestrians, children and others can’t hear them approaching, want automakers to supply some digitally enhanced vroom. Indeed, just as cellphones have ring tones, “car tones” may not be far behind — an option for owners of electric vehicles to choose the sound their cars emit. Working with Hollywood special-effects wizards, some hybrid auto companies have started tinkering in sound studios, rather than machine shops, to customize engine noises. The Fisker Karma, an $87,900 plug-in hybrid expected to go on sale next year, will emit a sound — pumped out of speakers in the bumpers — that the company founder, Henrik Fisker, describes as “a cross between a starship and a Formula One car.” Nissan is also consulting with the film industry on sounds that could be emitted by its forthcoming Leaf battery-electric vehicle, while Toyota has been working with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, the National Federation of the Blind and the Society of Automotive Engineers on sounds for electric vehicles. “One possibility is choosing your own noise,” said Nathalie Bauters, a spokeswoman for BMW’s Mini division, who added that such technology could be added to one of BMW’s electric vehicles in the future. The notion that battery E.V.’s and plug-in hybrids might be too quiet has gained backing in Congress, among federal regulators and on the Internet. The Pedestrian Safety Enhancement Act of 2009, introduced early this year, would require a federal safety standard to protect pedestrians from ultra-quiet cars. Karen Aldana, a spokeswoman for traffic safety agency, which is also working on the issue, said, “We’re looking at data on noise and E.V. safety, but manufacturers are starting to address it voluntarily.” A Toyota spokesman, John Hanson, said: “I don’t know of any injuries related to this, but it is a concern. We are moving rapidly toward broader use of electrification in vehicles, and it’s a fact that these cars are very quiet and could pose a risk to unsighted people.” A study published last year by the University of California, Riverside and financed by the National Federation of the Blind evaluated the effect of sounds emitted by hybrid and internal-combustion cars traveling at 5 miles per hour. People listening in a lab could correctly detect a gas-powered car’s approach when it was 28 feet away, but could not hear the arrival of a hybrid operating in silent battery mode until it was only seven feet away. Some electric-vehicle drivers have taken a low-tech approach to alerting pedestrians. When Paul Scott of Santa Monica, Calif., drives his 2002 Toyota RAV4 electric car, he often rolls down the windows along busy streets and turns up his radio so people know his virtually silent vehicle is there. Mr. Scott, vice president of the advocacy group Plug In America, said he would prefer giving drivers control over whether the motor makes noise, unlike, say, the Fisker Karma, which will make its warning noise automatically. “Quiet cars need to stay quiet — we worked so hard to make them that way,” he said. “It’s the driver’s responsibility not to hit somebody.” Mr. Scott has already warmed up to the idea of a car ring tone. “It should be a manually operated noisemaker, a button on the steering wheel triggering a recording of your choice,” he said. “It could play ‘In-a-Gadda-Da-Vida,’ or anything you like.” |
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The Z3s or, maybe early Z4s had a snorkel that fed "engine noise" into the
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I think it would be cool to have the sound of a car sliding/screeching to a stop everytime the brakes are applied and maybe the engine sound of a semi tractor.
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I almost got run over by a diesel renault about 10 minutes ago, maybe if drivers weren't retarded you wouldn't have to worry about it
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omg. toyota is going to try and make their prius sound like an X5M
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It is one of my peeves against hybrids and electric cars. They're too quiet at low speeds so I never know they're there when I'm biking or walking (more often the former).
They should make the Prius sound like one of those old diesel Mercedes. It would be much more in character with the car. |
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I'd hack the sound system in mine and make it sounds like i'm busting ass. I'm having flashbacks of that email video we've all gotten w/ the guy riding his bike and the fart horn in his ass.
![]() Maybe if pedestrians and pedal bike riders didn't act like they owned the road and actually looked around first instead of just assuming, then we wouldn't have this problem. Didn't our mothers teach us to look both ways before we crossed? I ride a loudass motorcycle and I still don't assume ANYONE sees me. Sure, it's also the blame of inattentive drivers, but personally I hate these idiots on there pedals bike doing 10mph in my 45mph zone because "they have the right to be there". I'm last person to swerve around them into on-coming traffic. Allowed to share the road, but not required to carry insurance...am I the only one who sees a problem w/ that?
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As a bit of an enthusiast driver myself, I'm well aware of the annoyances of bikers. So whenever I bike, I yield to cars and will sometimes pull off onto the side of the road/gravel if it is narrow so folks can get by. I avoid passing them on the right at intersections and generally try to make drivers' lives easier. But I know I'm in the minority.
Thankfully, I do mostly mountain biking now and stay off the roads
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They should go with a proven solution for Hybrids. Just install the music makers from the ice cream trucks.
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