2009 X5, Gone so soon..... - Page 11

Lex2BMW · #**101** 02-17-2010, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ABMW

Was this at the dealer at the Auto-Mall off Oracle? You're right. That dealership SUCKS! Isn't there one over on 22nd, also? I can't remember?

To be honest, though, Tucson dealers are so much better than the dealers in the Bay Area that you'd be literally shocked, seriously.

I live in both cities: I'm not a snowbird, don't worry.

I agree about many of your claims. From a technology standpoint the X5 is behind its peers. The 2011 model closes that gap, with intelligent cruise control, lane departure, etc.

In fact, even the 2010 model's iDrive might as well be a different system than what was on your 2009 model. Nonetheless, your points are valid.

The MDX is a fine vehicle. Nothing wrong with Hondas. I've noted a pretty surprising lack of quality in my city car (2008-honda civic), but nonetheless it will give you years of problem-free service.

Enjoy it!

Hey thanks for the kind words!

I never once bashed the X5 but it seems since starting this thread, it has turned into a "my car is better than yours" session but I refuse to play that game because its childish and reaks of vehicle insecurity.

Anyway, there is only one BMW dealership in Tucson and that is the one on Auto Mall (near 22nd). Horrible Horrible exerience!

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Lex2BMW · #**102** 02-17-2010, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by FSETH

Back to Buick. The 2011 Regal is going to be built in Germany and packs as many creature comforts as one would want.

I am approaching mid 30's and already on my 25th or 26th vehicle so maybe the Buick will be next on the list.

Lets see......
3 Acuras
1 lexus
1 Mercedes
1 Infiniti
1 Audi
1 BMW
and the list goes on and on.

jamesboags · #**103** 02-17-2010, 07:09 AM

A clear case of form follows function rather than style and design...does it come with wood panels ?

marcjac · #**104** 02-17-2010, 08:33 AM

Wow, this sure has created a lot of "colorful" posts. I hesitated to join in until I found my fire suit lol. Before I make any comment, let me preface by saying that (a) everyone has their own expectations and requirements when buying a vehicle, and (b) by and large I agree with the OP. My X is relatively old (2005) vs the OP's, it's the 4.8is. But the concerns are the same. I've owned it for not quite 2 months, and one of my very first posts was to mention how "underwhelmed" I am with the SAV. I agree it's more of a "driving machine" than anything else. It's got snappy performance, a sporty ride and handles GREAT. I also love the heated seats and steering wheel. The fit and finish is excellent, it's very comfy and I think would be great on long trips. The pano roof is outstanding!

BUT; the DSP sound system? I've heard Mazda Tributes with better. The Nav is totally dated compared to the 2003 Jeep I sold to buy the X, and light years behind my wife's '05 FX35. I don't think this is asking too much in a $75k vehicle, regardless of whether it was designed as a "driving machine" or "luxo" vehicle. I don't have the deep pockets that the OP must have to swap one new vehicle for another in short order. However, I don't feel my X is satisfying MY needs (which may be different from yours), and I'm going to try to sell it or trade it on something that suits me better. That, I believe, was the intent of the original post. If there has to be some tradeoff in the process, I'll decide what's worth it and what's not.

dbox · #**105** 02-17-2010, 09:06 AM

I could never give up an X5 for an Acura. Not even for 2 Acuras...

Lex2BMW · #**106** 02-17-2010, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by marcjac

Wow, this sure has created a lot of "colorful" posts. I hesitated to join in until I found my fire suit lol. Before I make any comment, let me preface by saying that (a) everyone has their own expectations and requirements when buying a vehicle, and (b) by and large I agree with the OP. My X is relatively old (2005) vs the OP's, it's the 4.8is. But the concerns are the same. I've owned it for not quite 2 months, and one of my very first posts was to mention how "underwhelmed" I am with the SAV. I agree it's more of a "driving machine" than anything else. It's got snappy performance, a sporty ride and handles GREAT. I also love the heated seats and steering wheel. The fit and finish is excellent, it's very comfy and I think would be great on long trips. The pano roof is outstanding!

BUT; the DSP sound system? I've heard Mazda Tributes with better. The Nav is totally dated compared to the 2003 Jeep I sold to buy the X, and light years behind my wife's '05 FX35. I don't think this is asking too much in a $75k vehicle, regardless of whether it was designed as a "driving machine" or "luxo" vehicle. I don't have the deep pockets that the OP must have to swap one new vehicle for another in short order. However, I don't feel my X is satisfying MY needs (which may be different from yours), and I'm going to try to sell it or trade it on something that suits me better. That, I believe, was the intent of the original post. If there has to be some tradeoff in the process, I'll decide what's worth it and what's not.

Hey man thanks for the feedback.

Before my OP I thought about what my approach should be. I was certain negativity would be met with negativity so I went with a more constructive approach and still received about 60% of negative responses.

Its cool though because I kinda like it!!

If I was vehicular insecure (I made that word up BTW) I could return the negativity by posting any of the numerous BMW X5 critic reviews, owner reviews, reliability reports, cost of ownership etc, that doesn't speak to highly of the X5 but that will be met with...."Those are just opinions"!

I could also post any of the numerous BMW X5 critic reviews, owner reviews, reliability reports, cost of ownership etc, that SPEAKS VERY HIGHLY of the X5 but that will be met with......."Told you so"!

Translation - Why bother!

I am not suggesting that you ditch the X5 but I AM suggesting that you find a car that makes you happy! I truly enjoy driving my 2010 MDX and get comments almost daily.

The genius of it all by BMW is to get their loyalist so fixated on the performance aspects of the vehicle that they start making excuses for the rest of the car. Mission Accomplished!

Non-X5 owner- Hey man your SUV is awesome but where is the CD player?

X5 owner - First of all dude this is an SAV. Get it right next time!

Non-X5 owner - Sorry man i didn't mean to offend you but does you SAV come with a CD player?

X5 owner - No, this vehicle doesn't come with a CD player BUT I can go 0-60 in 4 seconds.

Non-X5 owner - Cool but what about electric windows?

X5 owner - Dude BMW owners don't buy these cars for CD players and electric windows!!! We buy these cars for performance....you hear that engine growl!!

Non-X5 owner - Yeah that engine sounds nice but seriously dude, no CD player?

X5 owner - Damnit dude if you want all that go buy a Lexus, Mercedes, Infiniti, Audi, Acura, Honda, Buick, Toyota, Ford, Hyundai, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Kia, VW, Nissan, Chevrolet, Chrysler, Subaru, Dodge, or Volvo!!!!

Non-X5 owner- Okay dude I am gonna go test drive a Toyota!

X5 owner - Fine sissy boy and listen to this engine growl as you walk off!! vroom vroom!

I am about to do a search for your posts regarding impressions of the X5 after purchase.

Thunder22 · #**107** 02-17-2010, 12:06 PM

You claim to want an educated "car guy" discussion, yet whenever someone disagrees with you, you get defensive.

I'm going to file this entire thread under High:

Lex2BMW · #**108** 02-17-2010, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder22

You claim to want an educated "car guy" discussion, yet whenever someone disagrees with you, you get defensive.

I'm going to file this entire thread under High:

Oh gosh you again!!!!

If you read ANY of my post you would realize the error in what you just said. I know your attention span maybe somewhat short and as a result you probably didn't read the entire thread so here are the highlights.

1. X5 has tighter suspension than MDX - I agreed!
2. X5 has tighter steering than MDX - I agreed!
3. X5's front fascia looks better than MDX - I agreed!
4. MDX is better than X5 - I didn't agree!
5. X5 is better than MDX - I didn't agree!

6. 2010 Acura MDX is a much better vehicle "for me" than the 2009 BMW X5 I owned for almost 2 months.- AGREED!

marcjac · #**109** 02-17-2010, 12:26 PM

Hey, Lex:

This thread is nothing but egos. Seems many are missing your main point that while you felt the BMW was good in so many respects, it just wasn't for YOU. I understand and relate to what you're saying and can be objective about it. No so with others, so I'm outa here. Buh bye.

Marc

Thunder22 · #**110** 02-17-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex2BMW

Oh gosh you again!!!!

If you read ANY of my post you would realize the error in what you just said. I know your attention span maybe somewhat short and as a result you probably didn't read the entire thread so here are the highlights.

1. X5 has tighter suspension than MDX - I agreed!
2. X5 has tighter steering than MDX - I agreed!
3. X5's front fascia looks better than MDX - I agreed!
4. MDX is better than X5 - I didn't agree!
5. X5 is better than MDX - I didn't agree!

6. 2010 Acura MDX is a much better vehicle "for me" than the 2009 BMW X5 I owned for almost 2 months.- AGREED!

I have read your posts, but I keep falling asleep, so I'm sorry if I missed a point or 2.

You're the only one who keeps saying that everyone is pissed or overly protective of their BMW's, that you don't want an arm wrestle and then you continue the thread with nauseating "thank you" posts. No one cares that you did or didn't buy an MDX and no one cares that you like it better than an X5 and no one cares that do or don't like your ex- X5. You've been on this board for what amounts to a cup of coffee, and if you had been on here longer, you would realize that the X5 vs MDX topic has been beaten to death, unfortunately your ego won't let you see that because you're too caught up in attention whoring.

What are you trying to accomplish with this thread? You like your MDX better, great, good for you, enjoy it, it's a great car... is there anything else? Is there any part of the discussion or comparison that hasn't been beaten to death?

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