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Old 02-12-2010, 01:54 PM
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...and there I was thinking it happened cuz you were the 1000 customer heheh

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...and there I was thinking it happened cuz you were the 1000 customer heheh

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I know it is very safe which is why I am driving it.
It is the truck feel I am used to which makes me feel safe, unlike the X5 which is like a sports car. As far as accidents go, my Denali would get a scratch where as any other car would be wrecked. The X5 gets touched by another car, and a big hole appears in the bumper/panel. Also, your drive within a couple inches of a curb, and your wheel gets a chunk taken out of it.
It's not about how your sheet metal stay's unscathed in an accident-- it's the passengers in the car. If you want a car that doesn't get dented you might as well get an old pick-up truck. Safety has nothing to do with weight of a vehicle--- X5's have a designed crumple zone cage. And safety isn't about just getting hit, it's about having engineering that prevents you from getting hit. Try an emergency lane change in your Denali at 75 MPH and see how you feel about it's safety compared to an X5.
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I was going to say the same.
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Safety has nothing to do with weight of a vehicle--- X5's have a designed crumple zone cage. And safety isn't about just getting hit, it's about having engineering that prevents you from getting hit. Try an emergency lane change in your Denali at 75 MPH and see how you feel about it's safety compared to an X5.
Well said. Avoiding an accident is always preferable to surviving an accident. For some inattentive drivers having a sense of invincibility because they are driving a tank isn't necessarily a good thing - it only makes them even less attentive.
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It's not about how your sheet metal stay's unscathed in an accident-- it's the passengers in the car. If you want a car that doesn't get dented you might as well get an old pick-up truck. Safety has nothing to do with weight of a vehicle--- X5's have a designed crumple zone cage. And safety isn't about just getting hit, it's about having engineering that prevents you from getting hit. Try an emergency lane change in your Denali at 75 MPH and see how you feel about it's safety compared to an X5.
I agree. Just like when a race car crashes and everything around the safety cage literally rips apart or crumples. Sometimes the passengers who made out the best are in the cars that look the worst. You also have factors like how well the air bags perform and how your seats and seat belts react when stressed. Like someone already said, it is about avoiding accidents in the first place. I would gladly take the X5 over the G-class or Denali as far as brakes and handling are concerned.
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Wink All those things bother me, too.

I've noticed all the things you mention about the X5, too. But I'm committed to the diesel so am staying put. For long family trips the X5 has far exceeded my expectation on MPG, ride, noise level, and comfort. I hope BMW monitors these forums and tries to incorporate some tweaks (especially the time needed for backup camera to come online--it's instant in my wife's Sienna).

I've recently had a disappointing snow/ice experience with the X5 and am trying to figure out if vehicle mass vs. DSC vs. AWD type vs. operator error contributed. The same situation would not have been a problem in my three prior Audi's.

The SH-AWD in the MDX sounds interesting. Please post any impressions you have about it.

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I've noticed all the things you mention about the X5, too. But I'm committed to the diesel so am staying put. For long family trips the X5 has far exceeded my expectation on MPG, ride, noise level, and comfort. I hope BMW monitors these forums and tries to incorporate some tweaks (especially the time needed for backup camera to come online--it's instant in my wife's Sienna).

I've recently had a disappointing snow/ice experience with the X5 and am trying to figure out if vehicle mass vs. DSC vs. AWD type vs. operator error contributed. The same situation would not have been a problem in my three prior Audi's.

The SH-AWD in the MDX sounds interesting. Please post any impressions you have about it.

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Do you have a 2010 X5d? The backup camera lag is no more now...
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Old 02-13-2010, 11:17 AM
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Nope, I have 2009 [EOM]

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...and there I was thinking it happened cuz you were the 1000 customer heheh

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Thanks! That's funny!

You just made every male Lexus owner call their dealership's to check to see if what their customer number is!

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I've noticed all the things you mention about the X5, too. But I'm committed to the diesel so am staying put. For long family trips the X5 has far exceeded my expectation on MPG, ride, noise level, and comfort. I hope BMW monitors these forums and tries to incorporate some tweaks (especially the time needed for backup camera to come online--it's instant in my wife's Sienna).

I've recently had a disappointing snow/ice experience with the X5 and am trying to figure out if vehicle mass vs. DSC vs. AWD type vs. operator error contributed. The same situation would not have been a problem in my three prior Audi's.

The SH-AWD in the MDX sounds interesting. Please post any impressions you have about it.

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Sorry to hear about your disappointing incident! I hope that nobody was hurt!

I can say that the best mod that we've made to our X5 is a set of run flat Blizzak winter/snow tires. It's a different animal now and has gone through everything that we've thrown at it! Just a thought and not only does it give you an extra sense of security, but it helps the truck to perform like it was designed to. My only fear now is that while ours can perform so well, someone without the advantage that we have will run into us because they can't stop or turn like we can!
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