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Old 06-12-2010, 12:05 AM
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Still not convinced, I believe it was staged. The camera was there, his reaction to the guy in the BMW was too timid or relaxed. Not buying it.
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Old 06-12-2010, 12:46 AM
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Still not convinced, I believe it was staged. The camera was there, his reaction to the guy in the BMW was too timid or relaxed. Not buying it.
There are a bunch of people with roll bar/in car mounted cameras driving around these days. I saw an e36 with one on the highway this week. It seems the Mazda driver's was on and rolling because he was probably going to run that road at a good clip. The video said he was going slow to allow any traffic ahead of him to clear. It really isn't all that unusual, imo. His reaction was calm, but I guess you never know what you would actually do until it happens.
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I don't think I would call that excessive tailgating though, definitely not enough to warrant that reaction. I counted about 2 seconds judging by the signs passed... Sure the guy was driving closer than normal, but he was out for a spirited drive. If there were a dozen cars on that stretch they would likely be at least that close to each other anyways.
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Old 06-12-2010, 01:24 AM
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I don't think I would call that excessive tailgating though, definitely not enough to warrant that reaction. I counted about 2 seconds judging by the signs passed... Sure the guy was driving closer than normal, but he was out for a spirited drive. If there were a dozen cars on that stretch they would likely be at least that close to each other anyways.
That is what I am saying. I was counting about two seconds in some parts as well. He gets a little closer at the turn right before the BMW punches it, but I bet the BMW driver slowed up just a tad before gunning it. Sure he was a little close, but not nearly close enough to warrant the actions of the BMW driver. If you drive at all, you will see much worse tailgating than that on a daily basis.
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I think this was staged as well. Why would someone want to create a video that demonstrates just how excessive they were speeding? Beyond that while I disagree with the man's attitude he obviously felt threatened by the Mazda enough to pull over and at least the Mazda guy took the high road
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I think this was staged as well. Why would someone want to create a video that demonstrates just how excessive they were speeding?
People do it every day. Here is a video posted on youtube by one of our members here.

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People do it every day. Here is a video posted on youtube by one of our members here.
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Perhaps it was at a reasonable speed, and they weren't racing. Sure, that's it.
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Racing on public roads, while bicyclists are on the road.
Sorry, not a good reason. I've had one too many bicyclists who DON'T share the road flip me off. Bicyclists are some of the biggest hypocrites ever and can go off a cliff for all I care. Especially when they come within 6 inches of me while running up the mountain road near my school. Or on a trail when they have plenty of space. Assholes. If you're going to bike up a narrow, curving road, be situationally aware. Its at your risk. Just like me no importance whether I am running or in a car. If you want to bike and have priority, go find a trail. And don't run over the runners.

I am involved the organization that maintains a major trail system in my city. We had to close a large portion because of bikers not sharing the road and riding BETWEEN TRAIN CARS.

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Sorry, not a good reason. I've had one too many bicyclists who DON'T share the road flip me off. Bicyclists are some of the biggest hypocrites ever and can go off a cliff for all I care. Especially when they come within 6 inches of me while running up the mountain road near my school. Or on a trail when they have plenty of space. Assholes. If you're going to bike up a narrow, curving road, be situationally aware. Its at your risk. Just like me no importance whether I am running or in a car. If you want to bike and have priority, go find a trail. And don't run over the runners.
So because you have some cyclists that don't follow the traffic rules, the rest of us should be run off the road? Cyclists have legal rights on the road, same as cars, in many locations. I am not sure about California, where the video appears to have been shot. I don't want special rights, just the ones the law provides.

When I pass a runner on a shared trail, I call out "on your left" and I make sure he knows I am there. Some wave thanks, some seem to think I am asking them to stop and get out of the way, which generally I am not doing (unless they are running three abreast, taking the whole trail, and are not aware of others around them).

If I am riding on a narrow curving single lane road with no paved shoulder I will generally just move out and take the lane, instead of getting too close to the shoulder and risk being run off by cars who think they can take the whole lane. I wave cars past when it is safe for them to overtake me.

Guessing you are not a fan of the critical mass rides?

Last summer I had a nicely polished Porsche try and squeeze past me on a single lane merge when there wasn't room (we were both stopped, I was in front on my bike, waiting for traffic to open). His top was down. I asked him what he thought he was doing. He said he was going through the space because it was a road, the inference being that I should be on the sidewalk. I thought of unclipping my left cycling shoe and showing him my steel cleats, which were 8" from his nicely polished door. I was still considering whether it would feel better to centre punch the door, or drag the cleats down to his rear fender. I did neither, but it was a comforting thought. My point? Jerks come in cars too, not just on bikes. You can't judge society in general classes like all cyclists are jerks.
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