Home Forums Articles How To's FAQ Register
Go Back   Xoutpost.com > Off-topic > The Lounge
Fluid Motor Union
User Name
Password
Member List Premier Membership Today's Posts New Posts

Xoutpost server transfer and maintenance is occurring....
Xoutpost is currently undergoing a planned server migration.... stay tuned for new developments.... sincerely, the management


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-08-2011, 09:48 PM
Quicksilver's Avatar
Premier Member and retired relic
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: NORCAL
Posts: 17,206
Quicksilver will become famous soon enoughQuicksilver will become famous soon enough
WOW! Nearly 1 in 4 borrowers underwater

Hard to believe...... New research from Corelogic shows that 24 percent of borrowers owe more money on their homes than they're currently worth.
Nearly 1 in 4 homeowners underwater | WAVY.com | Hampton Roads
__________________
"What you hear in a great jazz band is the sound of democracy. “The jazz band works best when participation is shaped by intelligent communication.”
Harmony happens whenever different parts get to form a whole by means of congruity, concord, symetry, consistency, conformity, correspondence, agreement, accord, unity, consonance…….
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links

  #2  
Old 03-08-2011, 11:59 PM
Naz24's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 3,603
Naz24 is on a distinguished road
Not surprising. I would venture to say that many of them are in Adjustable Rate Mortgages. Its pretty crazy because you can actually have negative amortization.. So often their remaining balance does not only not get smaller after a payment..it actually gets larger. Also, think about the way amortization in general works out--you are paying mostly interest for the first half of the loan, your principle loan amount is barely changing.

So many people got into these mortgages that they couldnt afford.

Take for example a 30 year mortgage, 500,000 at 5% interest rate. Lets say that they got into this about 5 years ago..

Monthy payment: $2,684.11

After 5 years of paying, their loan amount left is $459,143.66
They have paid $40,856.34 in principle and $120,190.15 in interest over those five years.

Now lets assume that the housing market dropped 20% in the past 5 years (this is pretty generous..), their mortgage (or house) is only worth $400,000.. so under water by almost 60k. pretty scary stuff.


If you couldnt tell, i just finished studying for my real estate finance test.
__________________
NAZARIO
2015 M3 / 2012 X5M
BMWCCA



Kiss French, Wear Italian, Drive German
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-09-2011, 09:57 AM
AzX5's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: North of 110°F, City of Devils
Posts: 1,317
AzX5 is on a distinguished road
Yeah, 20% drop is pretty generous. Most homes here are 50% less than they were 5 years ago.
__________________
Thanks Benny! Every Breath Bernanke Takes
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-09-2011, 12:28 PM
blondboinsd's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,823
blondboinsd is on a distinguished road
I'm not shocked. The condo project I lived in has dropped 50% since it was completed
__________________
The Present:
2014 Audi Q5 TDI Prestige
The Past:
2013 Lexus GS350
2013 VW Golf TDI
2007 BMW X5 4.8i LOADED & Loved
2009 VW Jetta
2008 VW Touareg VR6
2005 BMW X5 3.0i
2005 BMW Z4 3.0i
2004 BMW X5 3.0i
2003 BMW 325i
2000 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer 4x4
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-09-2011, 02:07 PM
Krimson X's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: January 5, 1911
Posts: 1,221
Krimson X is on a distinguished road
No surprise, here. I thought it would be more than 25% underwater. I dont think the ARM loans have anything to do with it. Most of those came to term 2 years ago, and many of those borrowers foreclosed or refinanced. I do not think banks would still be offering them today.

Most of the underwater mortgages are due to the decline in home prices. I bought my home in 2006 right after Hurricane Katrina, and prices were slightly inflated do to the influx of new buyers to the area. Refinacned last year at an extremely low interest rate. If I sold my home today, I would do so at a loss.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-09-2011, 03:08 PM
PersonaNonGrata's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: SoCal
Posts: 7,749
PersonaNonGrata is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krimson X View Post
No surprise, here. I thought it would be more than 25% underwater. I dont think the ARM loans have anything to do with it. Most of those came to term 2 years ago, and many of those borrowers foreclosed or refinanced. I do not think banks would still be offering them today.

Most of the underwater mortgages are due to the decline in home prices. I bought my home in 2006 right after Hurricane Katrina, and prices were slightly inflated do to the influx of new buyers to the area. Refinacned last year at an extremely low interest rate. If I sold my home today, I would do so at a loss.
I agree. Most of the ARMs have be dealt with already. Those with conventional mortgages are suffering from the market taking a dump. I don't think I know anyone who's house is not under water to some extent. Even a friend who bought something recently at 50% less than the high point got an assessment at a lower value than he bought it at and he bought it as a foreclosure at a steal.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-09-2011, 04:13 PM
vegasX5's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 594
vegasX5 is on a distinguished road
Not surprising in the least. The most recent figures I have read say roughly 81% of mortgages are under water in the Las Vegas area. This article is a month old and shows ~71% but the proportion has gone up. Scary numbers no matter how you look at them.

USA Today notes Las Vegas' underwater housing problem - Tuesday, Feb. 8, 2011 | 9:32 p.m. - Las Vegas Sun
__________________
2001 X5 4.4i
2002 Honda S2000
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:17 AM.
vBulletin, Copyright 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0
© 2017 Xoutpost.com. All rights reserved. Xoutpost.com is a private enthusiast site not associated with BMW AG.
The BMW name, marks, M stripe logo, and Roundel logo as well as X3, X5 and X6 designations used in the pages of this Web Site are the property of BMW AG.
This web site is not sponsored or affiliated in any way with BMW AG or any of its subsidiaries.