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Old 12-19-2005, 06:43 PM
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Okay, I've had some experience with the cops and speeding since I've been in my X. Sorry in advance for the long post.

First, you could state that you were moving with the flow of traffic (if you really were) and felt it unsafe to go slower. It sounds too easy when you say it so simply. Fancy it up a bit. You've got to remember though, that above all, accident avoidence seems to be the most important aspect of traffic law. If you can convince the judge that not traveling at the same speed as the traffic around you could have added to the already present congestion and thus increased the chance of an accident you might be able to work something out. I've only done this twice, once when I was pulled over, and once in court. It worked both times, but I might have been lucky.

Second, you could basically admit that you were speeding, but contest the speed, which would probably reduce your fine and the points right? Like someone said earlier, ask about the radar gun calibration and most importantly, ask about the band of radar. Educate yourself about the different bands and errors that occur on a consistant basis that might mean the difference between a correct reading and a false one. Perhaps you can take it from this angle.

Third, pay the ticket. You were speeding after all, but it is definately not right to pay for 19 over when you knew you were going 12 over. I'm not sure how the punishment structure works where you are, but it seems like 12 over should be down a level.

Now, perhaps some tips for the next time you get pulled over. I've used these a couple times as well, and not only do they serve as respectful ice-breakers when talking to cops, but can mean the difference between driving off without a signed paper, and having this lead weight on your driving record. I'm going into Anthropology, and the most important thing I've found is starting conversation. Get good at it, cops are tough. Never, of course, admit fault if there is ANY hope you can get out of it. If it's like 5 or even 8 over (it was really pushing it though) ask the cop to help you figure out your malfunctioning speedometer. Ask him to maybe follow you and flash his lights when you get to a certain speed or something. Explain that you have the sport package, and now that you think of it, the larger wheel diameter may slightly skew readings on the speedometer (even though this would actually make it seem like we were going faster, who cares). 9 times out of 10 they'll come back to the car with your license and tell you to get that looked at. If they take you up on your offer, well, crap, figure something out from there. Having a clean record with this is critical.

If you're not going to use your innocent eyes, and admit some guilt, ask what type of radar was used to clock you. Keep this in mind when you contest your ticket. Simple things like the fact that Laser radar CANNOT be used to provide reliable readings if not completely still (on a tripod or something) can prove to your advantage. Above all, be nice. Nothing gets better when anyone mouths off to a cop. No matter how upset you are, these are people who deserve respect, even if you hate them.
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Old 12-19-2005, 06:57 PM
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No I don't, but it looks like I will be getting one now. I just didn't think I was going that fast to where they would be pricks about it and pull me over. There were about 2-3 cars that blew by me going at least 95mph before I got to the pass, so I didn't think too much about my speed. Just bad timing I guess.
They weren't being "pricks" they were doing their job.

As much as I've run into far more CHP's that were assholes in how they dealt with people both at work and in their personal lives, you can't call the guy a prick for giving you a ticket when you were admittedly speeding....
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hey PIGS are inteligent animals which stint of sh1t police are the lowest form corrupt sh1t stinking un educated over paid cival servants.
next time give him $5 and remind him thats for your wife last night.
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:52 PM
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They weren't being "pricks" they were doing their job.

As much as I've run into far more CHP's that were assholes in how they dealt with people both at work and in their personal lives, you can't call the guy a prick for giving you a ticket when you were admittedly speeding....
I'm just calling him a prick because of what happened after I got pulled over, but you're right; they were only doing their job and I can respect that. What bothers me is that EVERYONE at that time of night was speeding(12:15am) and my speed was barely above the other cars' speeds. There were times where it would take 30 seconds to a minute from the time I pulled up next to a car for me to pass it. And I'm peeved that he said I was going 89mph when my speedometer wasn't anywhere near 90. He said he clocked the other car and that I was pacing the other car. What he didn't acknowledge was the fact that maybe the other car passed me, then slowed down to pace me. If he had pulled me over and written down that I was going 82 or 83mph, I wouldn't be upset; after all, that's how fast I was going. In my only other speeding ticket, the cop said I was going 97 in a 65, which was true, but only wrote down 90 and I was grateful for that. In any case, if the fine is not crazy and I can take traffic school, then I'll probably go that route...the time I would need to spend to fight this is not worth the trouble or the amount I would be saving.

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Above all, be nice. Nothing gets better when anyone mouths off to a cop. No matter how upset you are, these are people who deserve respect, even if you hate them.
I definitely respect them and don't hate them. Part of me even thinks that he might have saved my life; who knows what would have happened later on if I was going that fast. God had him pull me over for a reason.
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:06 PM
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To date, only the new 3-series (E90) has a cruice control that will also brake in case you over-speed. Our cars don't do that though.
Mercedes has active cruise control as well. It's called Distronic and they've had it since MY2003 I believe. Lexus also has it, but I can't remember for how long. The 7Series has it as well no?
Anyways, it's a fantastic device, very handy for long trips just as long as you use it correctly. It's a tool, not a replacement.

As for the ticket situation, I know this sounds stupid but you might just want to suck it up. Are you sure your time battling this and researching it is worth it? I'm not sure how your insurance goes and what not, but can you take defensive driving to get the ticket dismissed? What about getting something like deferred judgement (sp?) which gives you a set amount of time in which if you get no tickets or infractions, the previous ticket doesn't count.

I have two tickets and a bazillion warnings. I have a speeding to dallas 17mph over (my fault) and a failure to turn left (SAT night / homecoming night, lame cop ) I had the first dismissed thanks to defensive driving and the second will be dismissed on January 11th.
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As for the ticket situation, I know this sounds stupid but you might just want to suck it up. Are you sure your time battling this and researching it is worth it? I'm not sure how your insurance goes and what not, but can you take defensive driving to get the ticket dismissed? What about getting something like deferred judgement (sp?) which gives you a set amount of time in which if you get no tickets or infractions, the previous ticket doesn't count.
That really depends on if I can take traffic school. In the other speeding ticket, the county commissioner who presided as the traffic court judge didn't allow traffic school for tickets above 80mph, so I was SOL. So if I can get the ticket dismissed by taking traffic school, then I will most likely go that route. Better to spend 8 hours at traffic school than 50 trying to fight it.
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hey PIGS are inteligent animals which stint of sh1t police are the lowest form corrupt sh1t stinking un educated over paid cival servants.
next time give him $5 and remind him thats for your wife last night.
You ARE joking, right? If not, that was a little un-called for.
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You ARE joking, right? If not, that was a little un-called for.
Check his location, it's the UK. They probably have a different system over there or something like that...?
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hey PIGS are inteligent animals which stint of sh1t police are the lowest form corrupt sh1t stinking un educated over paid cival servants.
next time give him $5 and remind him thats for your wife last night.

Why don't you hand that post to the cop that shows up when your house is robbed, family member mugged or X stolen..... go ahead, I dare you.

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Old 12-19-2005, 11:58 PM
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Check his location, it's the UK. They probably have a different system over there or something like that...?
I don't think so.
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