F#CK the *cure*...Find the CAUSE

tynashracing · #1 11-05-2012, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JCL

Yes, we are poisoning our water and air. And our oceans. I think it is because we as a society haven't figured out the consequences of our actions, or how to develop the political will to do something about it. Take climate change...there are still disbelievers, despite the scientific consensus.

That doesn't make me content to accept things. I'm debating with you, aren't I?

And you know that Sheryl Crow doesn't have brain cancer, don't you? And that she is probably not very qualified to determine a causal link between radio frequencies and cancer, given the distinction between ionizing and non-ionizing radiation? Why would you accept her comments on a talk show as proof, or even as a credible theory? It is another example of people not applying critical thinking skills. Not just you, lots of people. But you quote her comments as if they are founded on some logical basis.

And how about if we cut the rape comments? They have no place in a debate.

Agreed. I was over the top on my comment concerning exposure to being raped. I wasn't intending for it to mean YOU...just those that put their head in the sand...so, my apologies. You're a good guy JCL. You've provided a ton of info on these forums...and I respect that!

So, back to our discussion:

You understand that we're getting poisoned but feel "it's due to society not having figured out the consequences of their actions, or the political will to do something about it".

Your perspective on the mass scale poisoning sounds like it's all innocent and golly gee whiz if we could only figure this thing out and if the politicians would just quit thinking about being a politician...then we could clean things up.
I find that thought to be a bit naive.

I'm going to provide some links...a lot of links!

Maybe you'll decide to watch...maybe you won't. It's my last attempt to try to get you to see the big picture...that they're doing it ON PURPOSE. Innocence left the building a long time ago. And political will???? Bought and paid for...plain and simple. Govt's are corporate run institutions today...I can put some links up for that one too!

If you can't see this after exposing yourself to the links below...then I don't have a prescription strong enough to open your eyes and mind. Somehow though, I feel like I'm being played

I suspect that you are well aware of what's going on...but like to play devils advocate. Maybe not. If you're truly interested, you'll watch and hear various perspectives. Are these references "all knowing"?...nope. But, they do make sense to my ears. Anyway...

I know this is voluminous...but, some time invested will provide some insight into some of the things that I am talking about.
The end video is not something that I normally tune into....but, it's pretty passionate and frankly, hits the nail on the head with the political process. BTW, I've never researched this guy or his music.
I also added some comedic relief in the next to last video. All work and no play makes Jack...

Air:

What in the World Are They Spraying? (Full Length) - YouTube

Water:

Blaylock: Fluoride's Deadly Secret - YouTube

'The Fluoride Deception' - Christopher Bryson - YouTube

Food:

Conversations w/ Great Minds - Jeffrey Smith GMOs - Seeds of Deception P1 - YouTube

Conversations w/Great Minds - Jeffrey Smith GMOs - Seeds of Deception P2 - YouTube

Documentary on Monsanto...
The World According to Monsanto GMO Documentary - YouTube

Vaccines:
Interview with Sherri Tenpenny about dangers of vaccines - YouTube

Healthcare:

The History of Modern Healthcare with Dr. Peter Glidden - YouTube

Dr. Peter Glidden on Curing Type 2 Diabetes - YouTube

Dr. Glidden - Cholesterol, A Necessary Component of Human Biology - YouTube

Politics:

The False Left Right Paradigm - YouTube

MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan touches upon the false left/right paradigm 8/10/11 - YouTube

Chris Rock debunks the 2-party, false left-right paradigm - YouTube

And the grand finale:

WARNING: Strong Language

New Video: Ice Cube "Everythang's Corrupt" Polictically Charged Hip-Hop | Vibe

I added this one only because this is likely what the youth are watching. I don't agree with all of the content...especially the remark about capitalism...IMHO, he's mistaken cronyism with capitalism. I'm sure there are other references that I would disagree with as I've not looked up the lyrics. But, kudos to him for touching on the entire system being corrupt.

JCL · #2 11-05-2012, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tynashracing

Your perspective on the mass scale poisoning sounds like it's all innocent and golly gee whiz if we could only figure this thing out and if the politicians would just quit thinking about being a politician...then we could clean things up.
I find that thought to be a bit naive.

I don't think it is all innocent. I just don't think that there is a wizard behind the curtain.

The failure of a group to collectively do what is right or best doesn't define that there is a sole bad guy doing evil, pulling the puppet strings. I find that line of thinking to be a bit paranoid.

JCL · #3 11-05-2012, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tynashracing

I know this is voluminous...but, some time invested will provide some insight into some of the things that I am talking about.

They are from You Tube. That is not an education source, it is an entertainment source that targets a generation focused on sound bites instead of research.

tynashracing · #4 11-06-2012, 12:15 AM

Serious topics can't be posted to youtube????
Listen to Dr. Russell Blaylock. Also, Dr. Glidden references a published report or two.
Oh well. Like I said, I hope the system you trust takes good care of you.

I heard Dr. Blaylock say that either this is a conspiracy for population control or they are incredibly stupid.

Ken: Hey JCL...the sky is blue you know...here's a video showing the color of the sky.

JCL: You saw that on youtube. Youtube is for entertainment only...never mind that the video showed a blue sky...it can't be proven...since it's on youtube.

Lead a horse to water...

JCL · #5 11-06-2012, 01:00 AM

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Serious topics can't be posted to youtube????

Sure they can. But You Tube videos can't be your only source. It was the absence of serious reference sources that I cited. You had a serious doctor in your list. But you didn't cite a credible reference for him.

If I want to see what colour the sky is I will walk outside and look at it. I won't rely on edited You Tube clips as my sole source of information.

That doesn't mean that some of the videos on You Tube don't actually show a blue sky, you made a faulty leap of logic there. But what would you do if there was a video showing a blue sky, and another showing a green sky? Just go with which ever one you found first?

tynashracing · #6 11-06-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JCL

Sure they can. But You Tube videos can't be your only source. It was the absence of serious reference sources that I cited. You had a serious doctor in your list. But you didn't cite a credible reference for him.

If I want to see what colour the sky is I will walk outside and look at it. I won't rely on edited You Tube clips as my sole source of information.

That doesn't mean that some of the videos on You Tube don't actually show a blue sky, you made a faulty leap of logic there. But what would you do if there was a video showing a blue sky, and another showing a green sky? Just go with which ever one you found first?

Touche!