F#CK the *cure*...Find the CAUSE

JCL · #1 11-09-2012, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tynashracing

No one has addressed this:

When was it good to put: GMO's, Fluoride, Aluminum, Mercury, Thimerosal, Formaldehyde, Lead in our food, water, air and vaccines?

Please step right up and show me the proof!

'Cause that's what this thread is about!

Well, that and my assertion that it's been done with malicious intent.

Too easy. You will like this source. A doctor of infectious diseases. Working for no profit on this web site, simply combatting quackery. I like his point that if he was in it for the money, he would make more money during outbreaks. Healthy people aren't the business opportunity for doctors that sick ones are. So leave big business out of it.

By way of introduction, Amanda Peet said in public that people who didn't vaccinate their kids were parasites. The post is well worth reading.

Oh, and the chemicals you mention? Some of them are preservatives. None of them are harmful in the dosages in question. But more important is the downside of not vaccinating children. Read on. All the proof you want. With references and citations.

Science-Based Medicine » Amanda Peet is My Hero(1)

Check that website for articles on the non-linkage to autism.

If you are all for critical thinking, you will likely be ashamed of your previous posts on not vaccinating children.

tynashracing · #2 11-10-2012, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JCL

Too easy. You will like this source. A doctor of infectious diseases. Working for no profit on this web site, simply combatting quackery. I like his point that if he was in it for the money, he would make more money during outbreaks. Healthy people aren't the business opportunity for doctors that sick ones are. So leave big business out of it.

By way of introduction, Amanda Peet said in public that people who didn't vaccinate their kids were parasites. The post is well worth reading.

Oh, and the chemicals you mention? Some of them are preservatives. None of them are harmful in the dosages in question. But more important is the downside of not vaccinating children. Read on. All the proof you want. With references and citations.

Science-Based Medicine » Amanda Peet is My Hero(1)

Check that website for articles on the non-linkage to autism.

If you are all for critical thinking, you will likely be ashamed of your previous posts on not vaccinating children.

OK, I will look into Amanda Peet and the link you provided.

But, you have to look at: Merck vaccine scientist Dr. Maurice Hilleman admitted presence of SV40, AIDS and cancer viruses in vaccines

In case you didn't like the natural news link above, although it looks credible to me...maybe this one below is better suited?

Leading Vaccine Doctor States Cancer Linked to Polio Vaccine

After seeing that link, wouldn't critical thinking lead you to really question big pharma? I sure do.

Back to Dr. Blaylock, why is it that no one will take Dr. Blaylock up on studying the Amish children that haven't been vaccinated and compare children that have been vaccinated?
Seems a slam dunk for pro-vaccination, right? So, why aren't there any takers?
Did you watch that short 15 minute video I posted earlier? I found it odd and it does leave questions...in my mind anyway and I suppose in others as well.

JCL · #3 11-10-2012, 01:08 AM

Actually, critical thinking leads me to dismiss both Natural News and Mercola.com as frauds. The science based website I gave you calls the two of them "wretched hives of scum and quackery" but that just seems mean. Let them go about their misguided mission without subjecting us to them.

You continue with the non sequitur that because some drug companies oversell their medications, that all medicine is bad.

Vaccination hoaxes, including the Amish one, were covered in the link I gave you. You haven't read it yet, or you wouldn't have posted that.

tynashracing · #4 11-10-2012, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JCL

You continue with the non sequitur that because some drug companies oversell their medications, that all medicine is bad.

Vaccination hoaxes, including the Amish one, were covered in the link I gave you. You haven't read it yet, or you wouldn't have posted that.

Ha, I work for a living, have a wife and kids. I'm trying my best to digest everything you're throwing at me.

I'll go back and read again as I didn't see it.

Of course they're "scum and quackery"...their way is being called into question.

I'm not trying to throw the baby out with the bath water. I guess it does sound that way. I'm sure there are some really good drugs...I don't know, the only drugs I take are fluticasone and allegra d...frick'n allergies. I would like to try something holistic though to see if I could prevent sinusitis. Not sure if we're just dealing with so many toxins that it's triggering allergies or not. I know more and more people that didn't have allergies are now dealing with them.

I started looking at Dr. Mark Crislip...I see he's an Internal Medicine Doctor. I'll look into him a bit more. I'm too tired...east coast time zone!

I used to use an Internal Medicine Doctor...too many pills pushed on me. I stopped going.

I see Dr. Crislip is rated 2.5 stars out of four: Dr. Mark Crislip, MD - Internist - Portland, OR - Internal Medicine

JCL · #5 11-10-2012, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tynashracing

I see Dr. Crislip is rated 2.5 stars out of four: Dr. Mark Crislip, MD - Internist - Portland, OR - Internal Medicine

We are discussing his qualifications in infectious diseases, specifically with respect to whether vaccines are safe and/or beneficial, and you quote a web rating based on 8 anonymous web posters, which is based on things like ease of making an appointment, and courteous staff? Seriously? How does that even relate? Critical thinking?

tynashracing · #6 11-10-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JCL

We are discussing his qualifications in infectious diseases, specifically with respect to whether vaccines are safe and/or beneficial, and you quote a web rating based on 8 anonymous web posters, which is based on things like ease of making an appointment, and courteous staff? Seriously? How does that even relate? Critical thinking?

I was really tired and should've quit before I posted that lame rating system on him.

OK, back to critical thinking...I had a chance to go back to Science-Based Medicine and look over the info.

This is the part where I suspect you and I will never be able to agree. The name of the site says it all...it's Science-Based...and who better to quote to support science: CDC and WHO

I will NEVER trust these organizations. There's a vested interest...CDC and WHO serve it up...the Problem...Govt's react...we have a problem and must do something or else and big pharma steps in....with a solution and the cycle goes on and on and on.

The other thing I will never trust...numbers and the quality of such information. Look at govt stats...multi-layered deceptions to serve their interest.

So, trash in, trash out.

As for the Dr. that wrote that piece...I think he has good intentions. I don't think he's trying to hurt anyone...most of us aren't...we're just so compartmentalized and will find ways to justify what we're doing as being the correct course of action. Maybe it is...maybe it isn't. In most cases on an individual basis, we're trying to be good people. Unfortunately, good people can get sucked into a corrupt system and not fully understand "the business model".

I do think though, that at some point in our lives, we are faced with the truth about what we're doing and if we're playing for the right team or not.

JCL · #7 11-10-2012, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tynashracing

Of course they're "scum and quackery"...their way is being called into question.

Nope. Quack alert. See the referenced links. The guy is a charlatan. If it was 100 years ago he would literally be selling snake oil, door to door.

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/...-natural-news/

tynashracing · #8 11-10-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JCL

Nope. Quack alert. See the referenced links. The guy is a charlatan. If it was 100 years ago he would literally be selling snake oil, door to door.

Science-Based Medicine » 9 Reasons to Completely Ignore Joseph Mercola

Oh, I see the confusion. I wasn't saying look at Mercola...I was referencing Dr. Hilleman in both of the links.

Was the transcript in the link I posted on Natural News a fraud?