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Old 01-23-2013, 08:16 PM
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I separated this because I think it is a distinct point. I don't think words are wasted. I would much rather we discuss this with words, than be shooting at each other over it.

But here is something I think is a waste: the lives of children impacted by gun violence. I think they should have rights and security too.



Full article here, with data links and sources.

Protect Children, Not Guns 2012
So if all Americans give up their weapons, no more
children will be hurt by guns? If I thought that were
true I would give up my weapons tomrrow.
That argument is kind of old and tired.
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Well it seems to me you answered your own question
And your correct if everyone gave up guns no more
Children, in fact no one would be hurt by guns again.

The truth is its not an argument that's old and tired. In fact
It's not an argument at all. It's an answere that would
Solve gun violence. It's also nice to know you would
comply.


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So if all Americans give up their weapons, no more
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true I would give up my weapons tomrrow.
That argument is kind of old and tired.
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:28 PM
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Well it seems to me you answered your own question
And your correct if everyone gave up guns no more
Children, in fact no one would be hurt by guns again.

The truth is its not an argument that's old and tired. In fact
It's not an argument at all. It's an answere that would
Solve gun violence. It's also nice to know you would
comply.
Prove it.
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I don't believe I need to prove your comments.
I took your comments as genuine.

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I don't believe I need to prove your comments.
I took your comments as genuine.
Not my words. JCL's link and stats. Come on Quick, keep
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So if all Americans give up their weapons, no more
children will be hurt by guns? If I thought that were true I would give up my weapons tomrrow.
That argument is kind of old and tired.
Prove it?

Those are just American children btw, so those are the ones we are trying to save here. Statistics from the CDC and verifiable. No blog opinions. Links to source data in the link I provided.

Taking away the guns (if that was possible) takes away the gun violence. You can't shoot someone without a gun. It doesn't take away the potential for violence, of course. But no guns equals no gun violence, correct. And a reasonable assumption is that fewer guns equals less gun violence. That is achievable.

How about this one. 800 child gun suicides per year in the US. We could affect that number. And a far greater number of accidental shootings could be impacted at the same time.

Children. With rights to life and liberty.
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Here is another sobering thought.

34,387 children and teens in the US were reported to be injured by guns in 2008 and 2009. That is more than the number of US military personnel wounded in Iraq, and more than double the number wounded in Afghanistan.

Afghanistan, where they were fighting tyranny a few posts up.

So, what if the threat of tyranny wasn't in Iraq or Afghanistan, but right in our backyards? During peacetime? And we were collectively enabling it?
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So if you take my gun, against
the Constitution btw, then
criminals won't have guns?
You will come to my house
in time to save me after
a criminal breaks into
my home?
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Prove it?

Taking away the guns (if that was possible) takes away the gun violence. You can't shoot someone without a gun. It doesn't take away the potential for violence, of course. But no guns equals no gun violence, correct. And a reasonable assumption is that fewer guns equals less gun violence. That is achievable.
Why this is so hard for others to understand is beyond me.
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Why this is so hard for others to understand is beyond me.
So anybody gonna address my question?
Or just ignoring self defense?
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