Gun Control What's your take???

xsx450 · #1 01-22-2013, 12:56 PM

I swear to god some of you guys live in fooking LA LA Land!

Just because you lived a sheltered life where mommy and daddy kept you safe from the harsh realities of the world and the united states did such a good job of making you feel safe for YOUR entire life you are ignorant to the world we live in?

I realize many and most of you are highly educated or god damn lucky because of how well off you seem to be. READ A FOOKING HISTORY BOOK.

You are pathetic if you think guns are not needed to protect people, just because you think "it won't happen to me". You all sound like the blind leading the blind. What happens when someone does threaten to hurt your loved ones and your sitting there with your dick in your hand because "In this day in age we dont need guns" WOW. Do you really think criminals don't have them ILLEGALLY. Do you really think any amount of regulation will change that??? What a joke.

What happens when we all bend over and hand over our guns to the government. Do we just do whatever they say? Do we just submit to their every demand? Some of you would like, no LOVE, that.

Look at how this country was MADE! Jesus you guys are as unamerican as can be. If you want to live in a country without guns, THEN GO. No shit their gun crime rates are lower. WHY DON'T YOU OPEN YOUR EYES AND LOOK AT THE OTHER STATISTICS LIKE VIOLENT CRIME WITHOUT GUNS??? Does anyone know why we left for the new world?

What a joke telling us all about your multimillion dollar gated community. GOOD FOR YOU, you are safe, and you do not need a gun. But when the guy that doesn't have all of that see's you and comes into your house to take what you have without a care in the world for human life, your not going to even get to look like an idiot. Your going to be dead laying in your families arms.

Wake up people. All of the unrest in the world could just as easily happen in the US at ANY TIME. what do you think would happen if the banks closed, gas stations closed, and food sold out at the super market? WE WOULDNT ALL HOLD HANDS. Just because the US hasn't had a major crisis in quite a while does not allow us to all live with our head up our ass in LA LA Land. I swear to god some of you are a joke.

TerminatorX5 · #2 01-22-2013, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by xsx450

What happens when we all bend over and hand over our guns to the government. Do we just do whatever they say? Do we just submit to their every demand?

I guess it is safe to assume that you are a US citizen... Do you pay taxes? Do you have a driver's license? if you hunt, do you have a hunting license/permit? do you use the currency sanctioned by this government? Do you buy FDA approved medicine? USDA approved/certified meat? if you travel abroad, do you use US passport? do you call cops for a police report when filing an insurance claim?
if you answered YES to at least one of the questions (there are many similar questions that can be asked), YOU are submitting to "their" every demand... and since you are probably a gun owner, you are also ready to take on the tyrannical government that we have - as the 2nd amendment says NOTHING about protecting your home from a criminal, it only talks about bearing arms in the state regulated militia...

Which is clear violation of 18 USC 2385, the US criminal code...

what you are proposing, is ANARCHY, when the stores are out of supplies, you are suggesting people with arms taking care for themselves, effectively leaving out the weak and disabled, like little kids, elderly... I want to eat, just like anyone else, but i will not take last piece of meal from the mouth of pregnant woman, just because i have a gun... i have dignity... i am a human being... i am a civilized person, i did not just step out the woods... i'd rather die as a lion, from hunger, than live as a jackal...

really, you should read the history books, not written by the NRA - the 2nd amendment, written in 1791... I hope you know what was going on at the time, and WHY that amendment was written... i hope the name Roberspier rings a bell, as well as Bonaparte... And why the forefathers were so worried about the tyrrany... not about the criminals in your bedroom... not about empty shelves in the local 7-eleven... My little boy had super hard time letting go of his pacifier - but it would be looking ridiculous on 9 year old's face... same, the 2nd amendment has no real life bearings on 200+ year old democracy and looks at least, out of place on this pillar of the world's democracy - we are adamantly against prolifiration of weapons abroad, as it DECREASES the overall security but somehow, prolifiration of weapons domestically - increases it?...

and assuming that we were all sheltered and ended up on this forum is a serious mistake - not everyone here had a luxury of being born in the rich, spoiled America - some of us came here for the freedom... If i hear you say, "then go back to your country", it really would answer many questions about your mental state, and add one more reason why folks like you should not have guns.

xsx450 · #3 01-22-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TerminatorX5

I guess it is safe to assume that you are a US citizen... Do you pay taxes? Do you have a driver's license? if you hunt, do you have a hunting license/permit? do you use the currency sanctioned by this government? Do you buy FDA approved medicine? USDA approved/certified meat? if you travel abroad, do you use US passport? do you call cops for a police report when filing an insurance claim?
if you answered YES to at least one of the questions (there are many similar questions that can be asked), YOU are submitting to "their" every demand... and since you are probably a gun owner, you are also ready to take on the tyrannical government that we have - as the 2nd amendment says NOTHING about protecting your home from a criminal, it only talks about bearing arms in the state regulated militia...

I do pay taxes, I do have a drivers license, and I do follow the US Laws because I believe and support this country. However when this country decides to push me over the line that will all change. There are plenty of things that I don't do/support because I do not submit to their every demand. I vote, and write my elected officials.

"District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia[1][2] and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home within many longstanding prohibitions and restrictions on firearms possession listed by the Court as being consistent with the Second Amendment.[3] In McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 3025 (2010), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment limits state and local governments to the same extent that it limits the federal government"

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Originally Posted by TerminatorX5

Which is clear violation of 18 USC 2385, the US criminal code...

what you are proposing, is ANARCHY, when the stores are out of supplies, you are suggesting people with arms taking care for themselves, effectively leaving out the weak and disabled, like little kids, elderly... I want to eat, just like anyone else, but i will not take last piece of meal from the mouth of pregnant woman, just because i have a gun... i have dignity... i am a human being... i am a civilized person, i did not just step out the woods... i'd rather die as a lion, from hunger, than live as a jackal...

When that pregnant women is your wife and that jackal is armed what do you plan to do? defend against him with pride?

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Originally Posted by TerminatorX5

If i hear you say, "then go back to your country", it really would answer many questions about your mental state, and add one more reason why folks like you should not have guns.

I welcome you to our country as it is what this country is built on. I welcome you with open arms. But do not mistake my strong opinion for this issue as an attack on yours. Do not mistake my understanding for the need to protect one self as a means to do harm, or steal from a pregnant lady's mouth. Come on.

noncom23 · #4 01-22-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TerminatorX5

really, you should read the history books, not written by the NRA - the 2nd amendment, written in 1791... I hope you know what was going on at the time, and WHY that amendment was written... i hope the name Roberspier rings a bell, as well as Bonaparte... And why the forefathers were so worried about the tyrrany... not about the criminals in your bedroom... not about empty shelves in the local 7-eleven... My little boy had super hard time letting go of his pacifier - but it would be looking ridiculous on 9 year old's face... same, the 2nd amendment has no real life bearings on 200+ year old democracy and looks at least, out of place on this pillar of the world's democracy - we are adamantly against prolifiration of weapons abroad, as it DECREASES the overall security but somehow, prolifiration of weapons domestically - increases it?...
and assuming that we were a

Tx,
The reason you can piss on the Constitution
on this forum is a result of the original revolution
and the Constitution itself. But you refuse to see
it as such. You could appreciate the history of our
country instead of taking it for granted in your
ill-educated statements .

You step on the very same document that
gives the you right to do so. Make any sense? No.
Thats why your argument is ridiculous. Maybe
you should leave if you hate the US that much.

Either way, that document and the people
who wrote it had far more foresight than you
know. They even predicted people would
come here, take the freedom, and
crap on it like you just did.

Congratulations! You proved our point.
The US Constitution lives on. By the way, the US
is a Republic, not a Democracy.