The U.S. Withdrawal from Afghanistan - August 2021

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Originally Posted by EODguy

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Trump had the pull out linked to certain steps and actions (or lack of) by the Taliban and Biden dumped those metrics and just kept the idea of leaving.

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Not to arm wrestle, and most politically based posts here or on any forum leave me blah, but the T 'Plans' I have read in various sites show v little to no real, practical steps/actions from previous admin, imo.

It was/is a cluster fook, but certainly exacerbated by many of the previous/current admin's 'estimates' of how quickly the Taliban could move and assert themselves.

Biden probably heard that possibility/probability several times amongst the umptyseven opins and pitches, but Ol'Joe was hoping it would take 18 months for the T to take over, not a weekish.

As to 'us', The US being there: we had little to no biz being there almost 2 decades ago, (as did the Soviet army before that), and all the money, armament, 'training', and loss of life/life changing injuries on 'our side' haven't changed the situ one iota.

Tribal Lands for centuries, and lately propped up by their buddies next door in Pakistan, and the Taliban, roughly translated as 'seekers/students', 'learners', learned quickly...an 18th or 17th century or older, conglomeration of 'tribes', with a 'culture' that is v 'unwestern', and centuries old, now has more guns, armament, planes, et al than they did before.

The other countries with their noses in this are of course our old buddies, Russia, Pakistan, and the CCP. They all have irons in the fire in some manner and all stand to gain slightly over time, or inherit a new hornet's nest.

Time will tell, but I am glad we are getting out, even if it is not well done, messy and media flogged to a fare thee well.
GL, Ol'UncleMotor