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Old 09-10-2008, 11:14 PM
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Who here likes Government pork? Minus the lipstick of course.

Here is the score published by the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste calculated on a scale of 0-100 with 0 = always voted for pork spending bills and 100 = always voting against pork spending bills.

Arizona McCain (R) 2007 - 100% Lifetime record - 88%

Illinois Obama (D) 2007 - 10% Lifetime record - 18%

Delaware Biden (D) 2007 - 0% Lifetime record - 22%

Just for fun

New York Clinton (D) 2007 - 0% Lifetime record - 9%

http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/DocS...pdf?docID=3242

http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/Page...CCAGW_homepage
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Old 09-11-2008, 12:37 AM
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wow...according to that website, there was only ONE Democrat Senator that was over 30%. So does that mean if Obama is elected into office, we'll have more pork if it passes the House and Senate? That can't be good.
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Politicians should stay away from pork analogies. In the UK talking porkies means telling lies...... (rhyming slang porkie pies = lies)
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Politicians should stay away from pork analogies. In the UK talking porkies means telling lies...... (rhyming slang porkie pies = lies)
Sneaking pork into a bill because it doesn't have merit on its own is equivalent to telling lies in my book.
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Sneaking pork into a bill because it doesn't have merit on its own is equivalent to telling lies in my book.
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I hope this is accurate, because it's pretty damn important.

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Well for what its worth, money will always be spent on home town projects. That is why people elect representatives for their area. Now it shouldn't be the over-ridding focus like it seems to have become, but it will be there and should IMO.

Farming states will want farm subsidies, energy states will want energy subsidies, etc.. So it can be expected. However, Dems can put some SLICK stuff into bills.

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Currently, the energy bill...http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/10/news...ion=2008091015
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"While the Republican energy policy is focused more on increased supply and nuclear power generation, the Democrats are more focused on energy conservation, improving the environment and taxing big oils "

For example:

In Maryland (the highest median income state in the union) we apparently have a spending problem, so we just raise taxes. (Go DEMS!).

A bill in our state legislature currently is to allow slot machines, for revenue of course. However, tied in the bill is an amendment to the state constitution. SLICK for sure.
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Well for what its worth, money will always be spent on home town projects. That is why people elect representatives for their area. Now it shouldn't be the over-ridding focus like it seems to have become, but it will be there and should IMO.

Farming states will want farm subsidies, energy states will want energy subsidies, etc.. So it can be expected. However, Dems can put some SLICK stuff into bills.
There is nothing wrong with the occasional subsidy or other local pet projects, but they should stand on their OWN merit, not snuck in under the radar where congress doesn't vote or even know about most of them.
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Sneaking pork into a bill because it doesn't have merit on its own is equivalent to telling lies in my book.
Well Said...We must be sheeple to keep allowing that to happen.
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Well for what its worth, money will always be spent on home town projects. That is why people elect representatives for their area. Now it shouldn't be the over-ridding focus like it seems to have become, but it will be there and should IMO.

Farming states will want farm subsidies, energy states will want energy subsidies, etc.. So it can be expected. However, Dems can put some SLICK stuff into bills.

Side note:
Currently, the energy bill...http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/10/news...ion=2008091015



For example:

In Maryland (the highest median income state in the union) we apparently have a spending problem, so we just raise taxes. (Go DEMS!).

A bill in our state legislature currently is to allow slot machines, for revenue of course. However, tied in the bill is an amendment to the state constitution. SLICK for sure.
Sure, which is why a score of 70-75% or above is pretty good. That shows me the Representative looked at the bill and voted on merit. ANY score under 10-15 shows lack of responsibility for taxpayer money. ANY 0 (ZERO) score as with Biden and Clinton means they LOVED all the pork or did not bother to read the bill.
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