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I live in SoCal which is widely a Democratic and Obama town.
And while I am not 100% decided on who I'm going to vote for, (the more I learn about Palin the less I like her,) I'm pretty much leaning towards the Republicans. Here is the thing though: When I discuss politics with my friends, the Obama supporters, they INSIST that if OBAMA is not elected President, the only reason is because he's black. And it's impossible to argue with them. They refuse to believe there is any other reason, other than his skin color, that might prevent him from being elected. And while I have a very smart group of friends whose opinions I usually respect and appreciate, comments like that make me want to smack them in head. And no matter how rational an argument that I make about other reasons that make him the less desirable choice, they refuse to accept any other logic other than, "If he doesn't get elected, it's because he's black." I don't think their doing it consciously. I honestly think they are so caught up in what they think is right for the country that they imagine that anyone who doesn't agree with them must be racist. It's actually a pretty obnoxious point of view. As if any other white democrat with Obama's position, experience, etc. would be a shoe in. That no one would vote Republican with a unbeatable candidate like Obama. I'm not surprised for one second that the media is going to start playing that card and is going to blame a loss (if there is one) on race. Personally, I don't think most people in 2008 give a rats ass about race. Sure there are some pockets of true racists in this country, but those people would also never vote for a catholic (Kennedy), etc. If I don't vote for Obama, it will have nothing to do with his skin color. It will be because I don't believe in his foreign policy, tax plan, bigger government, etc.
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I agree with the comments that not voting for him because he is black is as bad as voting for him because he is black. Neither choice is based on facts, policy, ability, etc. They are based solely on racial prejudices either way. Voting for Obama because a black person distrusts a white president is as bad a white person not voting for Obama because they distrust a black president. I doubt that these types of bases of decision making will change, just as Biden was out stumping and not-so-subtly reminding his mostly Catholic audience that he is Catholic. They, the politicians, and the media will play every angle even if they have nothing to do with who would be the best person for the job.
I also agree that a win or loss for Obama will be spun to be attributed to race. The sexism issue is as pervasive as the racial issue. How many people, commentators and everyday people, have questioned the morality/appropriateness of a mother of a disabled infant running for VP? If it were a man with a child with Down's Syndrome at home the question would NEVER be asked. I'm no NOW member but the issue can't be ignored. It has been pushed so hard that even a gay coworker of my wife's was questioning the appropriateness of a mother being a VP. If he had asked me I would have retorted that I would question the morality of a gay VP. I hate politics.
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I am not a supporter of either candidate nor do i
affiliate myself with or have a biased towards any political party or candidate. I usually reserve my 2 cents for people who have served in office and who's record stands on it's own merrit What I took away from this article had nothing to do the the election or the candidates. The article just served as a backdrop for an issue facing the human race. If it is true that people honesty believe what this article says they believe, I'm not the least bit surprised but it does sadden me.
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You certainly are not obligated to tell us who, and if I assumed incorrectly about your thoughts/intentions, I apologize (truly). You are a good man, and I hope I didn't say anything hurtful.
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GET OUT OF HERE.........Of course you didn't......
And no I do not have to pick one and no I will not pick one........... I also had a whole lot more to say on the subject but decided to put my spoon back in the drawer.......
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