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An unwavering defender of those I see worth protecting. "promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare" We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. |
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The laundry list above is to scare you. It's time that we voters rise above politics as usual. Acorn may have registered fictitious persons to vote, but google "YPM" - and you will see that the RNC was involved with disenfranchising real voters. Has Obama brought this up??? Nope, it's a distraction to real issues of concern. You can look at how the two campaigns are run to get a sense of how each will run the country. Last edited by 4point4eye; 10-22-2008 at 11:52 AM. |
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Come on Nov 5th. http://www.lp.org/issues
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An unwavering defender of those I see worth protecting. "promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare" We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. |
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Do you think that the reported two one-hour classes he taught as a volunteer for ACORN were instructing ACORN employees in how to perpetuate fraud? If so, that would be very relevant. That is a key link I saw to ACORN employees in the sources. There was also a joint state-federal investigation in Washington State that decided that the scheme there, the largest one prosecuted, was not intended to permit illegal voting, according to the Republican prosecuting attorney. I found that significant.
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We've already agreed on the docs coming out of Seattle in October.
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An unwavering defender of those I see worth protecting. "promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare" We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. |
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Remember both the Rep and Dem party are responsible for the mess the country is in now. It couldn't have happened without shared responsibility. And as election time nears, they all point fingers and they all cast blame...but none say "hey, ya know what? Government was the problem and thus, I was the problem". Government, both Dems and Reps stopped working for the "people" a long time ago. They will continue to attempt to mandate via tax code and legislation, what is good for you in their eyes and with their agenda in the forefront.
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An unwavering defender of those I see worth protecting. "promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare" We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. |
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You left out a bunch but I agree with you (No surprise for the peanut gallery) Two of the items on your list are indisputable which alone should preclude him from getting elected. The rest Democrats have been able to come up with "excuses" to deny the validity of the indiscretions. Ayres for example...Obama has successfully (in their minds) lied about this relationship.
He will win the election and that is really based on the TOTAL failure of Bush and our economic situation. Chalk this up to a Perfect Storm. |
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I wasn't trying to insult you, JCL. I know you are an intelligent person.
Can we both agree that Obama has very close ties to Acorn and Acorn, whether convicted of anything or not, has been involved in fraud over the past 20 years or so? Obama helped Acorn out in a lawsuit in the mid 1990's when Acorn filed a suit against the state of Illinios and he taught or was invited to teach Acorn training classes. Both sides do get money from places like Fannie Mae, but from what I have read, Obama was near the top of the list on how much people were paid. The quote of Michelle Obama was from a very credible news source and I didn't manipulate any of the words. I don't know what else to say about that one. Also, according to multiple sites, Obama did remove all flags from his plane and replace them with his personalized logo's. Check out the before and after photos here; http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/airplane.asp Otherwise, there is no disputing what Bidden said about him being tested, his relationship with a racist reverend, his lack of experience, him not putting his hand over his heart for the National Anthem, Him saying he had been to 57 states and had one to go, his personal statement on wanting to spread the wealth around and so on. |
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