Home Forums Articles How To's FAQ Register
Go Back   Xoutpost.com > Off-topic > Politics Forum
Arnott
User Name
Password
Member List Premier Membership Today's Posts New Posts

Xoutpost server transfer and maintenance is occurring....
Xoutpost is currently undergoing a planned server migration.... stay tuned for new developments.... sincerely, the management


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-10-2008, 07:34 AM
Wagner's Avatar
..make it happn' capn'
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Mt. Airy, MD
Posts: 17,747
Wagner is on a distinguished road
Is the whole nation on crack, or just some of us?



http://money.cnn.com/2008/11/06/news...ion=2008111005


Summary:

- How about we raise the gas tax (though this article acts as if there isn't already one and says "add a gas tax")

- Raise it by a $1 a gallon, because that additional revenue could go to roads/schools (ahh, how many times have you heard that excuse used for every tax levied)

- Immediate impact. (perfect for a failing economy and when the EU predicts that 3 countries will go stagnant on GDP next year)

- Only a 4% reduction last month in driving (as if there is some gold standard of what "we" should be driving. )

- Gas prices plummet (I'm so sick of that, they've plummeted off RECORD highs. It isn't as though gas is 0.43 cents and we are just bit_hing, we still aren't where we were before this ridiculous escalation occurred)

- Economists say it is an efficient way to reduce GH gases (glad economists weighed in on the environment)

- There's also the criticism that a gas tax is regressive - it hits poor people more than rich ones. (Are you currently on a bong? What now we should have percentage taxes for fuels based on what you make a year? I thought we wanted to get rid of class warfare, apparently we are using it as a linchpin)

Thankfully, I doubt any of this non-sense would ever pass..but who knows, maybe this will be "change"

Imagine: diesel fuel was at $5/gallon and we then append a $1/gallon tax...making it $6/gallon....watch how fast inflation takes off. The world is based on transportation, you can't just tax it out of existence. Again..the US with legislation via a tax code

BTW, currently rising oil prices/fuel prices have very little to do with the USA:

Oil prices jumped above $64 a barrel Monday in Asia as regional stock markets rallied on a massive Chinese economic stimulus plan, which could underpin demand for crude.
__________________

An unwavering defender of those I see worth protecting.

"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


Last edited by Wagner; 11-10-2008 at 07:53 AM.
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links

  #2  
Old 11-10-2008, 07:47 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 749
lakai is on a distinguished road
These people probably don't even own cars or drive. Or worse they own a Prius. These hippy tree-huggers are totally disconnected from how important fuel prices are in this country.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-10-2008, 12:50 PM
blondboinsd's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,823
blondboinsd is on a distinguished road
CA already has a huge tax on Fuel. Are they nuts???

Remember, to close the gap, you simply upgrade the taxes on families with children. Problem solved!
__________________
The Present:
2014 Audi Q5 TDI Prestige
The Past:
2013 Lexus GS350
2013 VW Golf TDI
2007 BMW X5 4.8i LOADED & Loved
2009 VW Jetta
2008 VW Touareg VR6
2005 BMW X5 3.0i
2005 BMW Z4 3.0i
2004 BMW X5 3.0i
2003 BMW 325i
2000 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer 4x4
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-10-2008, 03:07 PM
Kewl X5's Avatar
Chairman/Moderator/Premier Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: X5 World
Posts: 4,000
Kewl X5 is on a distinguished road
Don't understand your statement about upgrading taxes on families with children. We need to invest for the next generation and putting additional burden on the middle-class with families only would not help the situation.

Basically, once Obama comes into office, he'll need to raise taxes on everyone once the economy stabilizes.

Also, you can start back with adding luxury tax on expensive cars and SUVs....

In fact, why penalize productive workers with an income tax, instead, tack on consumption tax...Heck, the Democratic way is to tax everything, incomes and consumption! Tax Healthcare, tax driving on the roads, tax breathing air!


Quote:
Originally Posted by blondboinsd
CA already has a huge tax on Fuel. Are they nuts???

Remember, to close the gap, you simply upgrade the taxes on families with children. Problem solved!
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-10-2008, 04:12 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Bay Area California
Posts: 2,796
MrLabGuy is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by blondboinsd
CA already has a huge tax on Fuel. Are they nuts???
Yeah...And it went to improve schools and the roads. Considering we have been paying the highest gas taxes in the Nation for years now and we drive the most you would think our schools and roads would be #1 in the Nation. Instead we are near the bottom on both. Which makes Wagner's point.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-10-2008, 11:11 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 180
LobsterX is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by blondboinsd
Remember, to close the gap, you simply upgrade the taxes on families with children. Problem solved!
So how are WE going to feed our kids now if you want to raise taxes on us who have kids? It sounds like you want to penalize people who have children...tsk tsk tsk...
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-10-2008, 11:49 PM
Eric5273's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: New York
Posts: 4,523
Eric5273 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wagner
There's also the criticism that a gas tax is regressive - it hits poor people more than rich ones.
This is true. There shouldn't be any sales taxes on anything. Nor should there be income tax. The only thing that should be taxed is property and wealth. We should be taxed on net worth, and everyone should be taxed the same rate. Problem solved. There is your "flat tax". Everyone pays the same rate.
__________________


my experience on X5world when I spend too much
time posting in political threads in the lounge...
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-11-2008, 02:01 AM
Dannyell's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Hinckley OH: America de Nord
Posts: 1,347
Dannyell is on a distinguished road
[quote=Wagner]
Imagine: diesel fuel was at $5/gallon and we then append a $1/gallon tax...making it $6/gallon....watch how fast inflation takes off. The world is based on transportation, you can't just tax it out of existence. Again..the US with legislation via a tax code[quote=Wagner]

In my line of work it would leave a big dent...while affecting pretty much everyone...
__________________
01 4.4


P5 card hacked
'our curr€ncy, your problem'
Bavarian Motor Wrong
:
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:13 PM.
vBulletin, Copyright 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0
© 2017 Xoutpost.com. All rights reserved. Xoutpost.com is a private enthusiast site not associated with BMW AG.
The BMW name, marks, M stripe logo, and Roundel logo as well as X3, X5 and X6 designations used in the pages of this Web Site are the property of BMW AG.
This web site is not sponsored or affiliated in any way with BMW AG or any of its subsidiaries.