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Old 01-18-2009, 08:16 PM
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under GWB it wasn't just a terrorist attack it was the terrorist attack...What just because it happened only once he's something??? I doubt AL-Queda would of had the resources and time to pull off such an attack 2X while Bush was president...& not necessarily because Iraq but because we strengthened our airports and borders...

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Check out how many terrorist attacks occurred on US forces/embassies during the Clinton march
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Old 01-18-2009, 08:54 PM
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Check out how many terrorist attacks occurred on US forces/embassies during the Clinton march
This is a long list especially if you include the Arab Hi-jackings in Africa and M. East that we barely heard about. The terrosrists were taking the planes as ransom. Indian jets, Turkish jets etc... The Govs. pretty much paid them off hoping to keep a modecom of peace and lessen the severity of potential future attacks.
Marine corps Barracks
2 count 'em 2 US Embassy bombings
previous World Trade Center bombing
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History seems to have forgotten the failures of the Clinton Presidency. He acquiesced on all fronts and left the impression of us being the Lion without teeth. Imagine Bin Laden and the Muslim Extremists after driving out Russia, picking away at us without severe consequence.
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:04 PM
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Cause Clinton was fully pushed by the media as an amazing benefit for the average person.

He was very good, for the economy. As one of my friends says:

You have to go this road, good for the country, good for the citizens, ebbs and flows. Reagan, Bush, Clinton Clinton, Bush Bush, Obama aka Clinton

Keeps the natives at bay.
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:06 PM
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Cause Clinton was fully pushed by the media as an amazing benefit for the average person.

He was very good, for the economy. As one of my friends says:

You have to go this road, good for the country, good for the citizens, ebbs and flows. Reagan, Bush, Clinton Clinton, Bush Bush, Obama aka Clinton

Keeps the natives at bay.
So now all we need is a conservative who is good on the economy.
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:08 PM
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So now all we need is a conservative who is good on the economy.
Doubt you can find someone who can balance the best interests of the nation and the citizens that is why we vote every 4 years
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Doubt you can find someone who can balance the best interests of the nation and the citizens that is why we vote every 4 years
I don't know, but Salma Hayek would probabaly do a pretty good job!!
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History seems to have forgotten the failures of the Clinton Presidency. He acquiesced on all fronts and left the impression of us being the Lion without teeth. Imagine Bin Laden and the Muslim Extremists after driving out Russia, picking away at us without severe consequence.
Two points:

1) Bin Landen and the Muslim Extremists had help driving out Russia. Any ideas who helped to recruit them to come to Afghanistan, arm them, and then train them in their terrorist tactics?

2) Bin Laden was our buddy. He became our enemy when we opened up bases in Saudi Arabia in 1990, long before Clinton ever stepped foot in the White House
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:02 AM
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Two points:

1) Bin Landen and the Muslim Extremists had help driving out Russia. Any ideas who helped to recruit them to come to Afghanistan, arm them, and then train them in their terrorist tactics?

2) Bin Laden was our buddy. He became our enemy when we opened up bases in Saudi Arabia in 1990, long before Clinton ever stepped foot in the White House

You didn't answer what he was talking about. He was saying that if we struck back in places like Kenya instead of firing one tomahawk and apologizing, or raiding Somalia for a weekend...calling it a UN mission and then backing out like a bi___h because the CinC got scared of public opinion, then the view of extremists that they could even commit a Sep11 attack would have been null.
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:13 AM
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You didn't answer what he was talking about. He was saying that if we struck back in places like Kenya instead of firing one tomahawk and apologizing, or raiding Somalia for a weekend...calling it a UN mission and then backing out like a bi___h because the CinC got scared of public opinion, then the view of extremists that they could even commit a Sep11 attack would have been null.
EXACTLY!!

We all know (I hope) it was the US that supported and trained Bin Laden in Afg.

What alot of people also do not realize is that even under Jefferson, the Muslim Extremists were rolling the same agenda!!! Jefferson said he feared the day they came to the US.

They were our theological enemies LONG beore Saudi. They just never had the had the abilities. Armed and codified under Reagan. Empowered by Clinton's lack of a back bone.
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You didn't answer what he was talking about. He was saying that if we struck back in places like Kenya instead of firing one tomahawk and apologizing, or raiding Somalia for a weekend...calling it a UN mission and then backing out like a bi___h because the CinC got scared of public opinion, then the view of extremists that they could even commit a Sep11 attack would have been null.
You guys just don't get it. Every time you kill one, 2 more are created. Take out a hundred, and two hundred more will join tomorrow. Keep pouring gasonline on the fire and then wonder why it never goes out. The policy blunder was not the failure to fight the terrorists. The policy blunder was creating them in the first place, and then pissing them off. Once that happened, you cannot stop the attacks unless you increase security to the point of turning the US into a police state.
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