Stimulate This

[Eric5273]

No slant. Those are the real numbers. Just look at the years that the national debt grew the most. They are years when we had Republican presidents, because they are the ones who spend the most and grow the government the most. The years that the debt started to level off was in the 1960s when we had Democrats in the White House and again in the 1990s under Clinton. Just look at the chart. The numbers don't lie.

[AzX5]

Originally Posted by Eric5273

No slant. Those are the real numbers. Just look at the years that the national debt grew the most. They are years when we had Republican presidents, because they are the ones who spend the most and grow the government the most. The years that the debt started to level off was in the 1960s when we had Democrats in the White House and again in the 1990s under Clinton. Just look at the chart. The numbers don't lie.

I don't think anyone is doubting the numbers, only your misreading of them. The debt didn't exceed $3T until 1990, and I assume that means at the end of 1990 calendar year, yet Reagan basically left office end of 1988 (Jan./1989) which is 2 years before that. So your original argument was exaggerated, that's all.

Edit: Also, when Clinton took over the debt was around $3.5T but when he left it was around $5.5T which is just as much of an increase (not %-wise) as under Reagan. So what's your point again?

[motordavid]

Regardless of who was/is Prez, or which party controlled House/Senate,
the geniuses will still spend a lot more than any of us can ever send
to them.

Add in the basically unfunded SS and Medicare/aid numbers,
(something on the order of ~$50 Trillion Bucks), stir in TARP,
the "Stimulus" and the ongoing spend it until we drop congress...
and, we are talking some real dough. As in, it only gets worse,
fiscally, imo.
BR,mD

[AzNMpower32]

Like some others have said, we probably need an total refresh of those in Congress and the White House to really make an effective change.

We will ditch the House of Representatives. Two people from each state on this X5world forum will now sign up to represent their state in the Senate . (California is not part of the US, so those members continue doing what y'all do in that country.)

[Meiac09]

Originally Posted by AzNMpower32

Like some others have said, we probably need an total refresh of those in Congress and the White House to really make an effective change.

Now I'm really scared... Eric and Blue running NY

[alewifebp]

Originally Posted by AzNMpower32

Like some others have said, we probably need an total refresh of those in Congress and the White House to really make an effective change.

Wait, I thought we already got "change" in the White House?