more examples of bullcrap.

[AzX5]

Originally Posted by chile1

Probably the best speech President Obama has ever made or ever will make in his career. Completely bi-partisan and realistic.

Mind-boggling how one could listen to that speech and consider it bi-partisan in any way, shape, or fashion.

[Quicksilver]

Originally Posted by AzX5

Mind-boggling how one could listen to that speech and consider it bi-partisan in any way, shape, or fashion.

Kinda like 8 Years of Bush and Cheney.......

[Kewl X5]

A little off topic...but the speech was quite partisan at the beginning, but at least there was some concession and admission that both sides of the party have been quite extreme and non-constructive. Obama really knows how to give a speech!! But the substance of the speech is what is in question...

Anyhow, I cannot see how the Republicans who are the minority in the Senate and House stop the Healthcare Reform bill...It seems like the Democrats are the one who is having problems getting full support. None of the Republicans have been invited to discuss. All the Republicans amendments to the Healthcare Bill have been rejected. So much for bi-partisianship...May not be Obama's fault, but certainly Pelosi and Reid have been running partisan politics.

And the misinformation is not only coming from the Republicans, it is also coming from the current Administration and Democrats. According to Axelrod, Nurses & Doctors support Healthcare Reform (I agree), but many doctors DO NOT support the current BILL in its current state and last I checked, NO physicians have been asked to consult in this important piece of legislation.

Anyhow, it's funny how Pelosi's face did not move during the whole speech until Rep. Joe Wilson's outburst.

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

Kinda like 8 Years of Bush and Cheney.......

[X5rolls]

Originally Posted by AzX5

Mind-boggling how one could listen to that speech and consider it bi-partisan in any way, shape, or fashion.

Under the spell of left wing thinking. The president just bashes anyone who disagrees with him, says he is open to all ideas with a smile and closes the door most of the way to what conservatives have been asking for. Many believe he came forth with lots of details about HIS plan - IMO and many others, there were no real details and no proof he could accomplish some of his goals like not adding to the deficit. No one believes that, deep down, no semi-intelligent person could.

It seems to be easy for the far left to dig in given the far rights inflamatory activities at times - the more the far left pushes it's agenda the more the far right will dig into it's positions. The president is the leader of the left and the country is center right. No one should be confused about this.