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03-03-2010, 03:57 PM
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 Obama demands 'up-or-down' vote on health care - Yahoo! News 
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03-03-2010, 04:18 PM
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Good. Let's get this over with. I am so tired of hearing about it. Yes or no.
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03-03-2010, 04:58 PM
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 That's exactly what I'm talking about.....
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03-03-2010, 05:20 PM
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Again let me say........
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or disagree but people will not understand this until they get old and sick. And while we may have the best health care in the world, those who administer it (the insurance companies) make sure that when you get sick they will control how much of it you will benefit from. So what's the difference who's doing the controlling? The Government controls so much of what is going on in our lives that I believe we haven't taken a good look at the long list of regulations that covers every aspect of our lives. And of course it's done because businesses like insurance companies stand in the ready to rip people off. From traffic lights to to USDA we are already regulated to the hilt. Those regulations are put in place and adjusted over time for the best results. You mentioned "Health Care is already available for those who can't afford insurance. There are government programs already in place. Medi-Cal, Medi-Caid, Family Pact, ect, ect, ect. There are community health centers who have what is called a "Sliding Scale" You pay for services based on your ability to pay. Those who can't pay anyting don't." Go ahead and get old and try to use those services and see how much of your income and resources they will demand in order to provide it. Get cancer and see how many times an insurance company will try to short change your treatment. It's not as cut and dry as some would like to make it but that never becomes a reality until a person has to use it. Then you find out whats up.
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03-03-2010, 05:53 PM
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Do you believe we need health care reform, yes or no? Who would answer NO?!? Do you agree with Obama's plan for health care reform, yes or no? Every poll has the majority at NO.
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03-03-2010, 06:16 PM
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That depends:
PRINCETON, NJ -- Americans' support for U.S. healthcare legislation has crept up incrementally since early November. Now, slightly more Americans want their member of Congress to vote in favor of such legislation rather than against it, 49% vs. 46% -- a first since October. More broadly, however, Americans remain closely divided on the issue, with neither position attracting majority support. I wouldn't call that a majority by any stretch. Healthcare Bill Support Ticks Up; Public Still Divided Again not a majority.. http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/healthplan.php And about that public option??? http://healthcarepolls.blogspot.com/...states-94.html Clearly the Republican claim that "the people" don't want this or that isn't quite accurate.
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03-03-2010, 06:26 PM
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FYI - it isn't a REP claim  That is just what Obama and Pelosi will tell you. Ask yourself this, why did the DEM controlled Congress, for over a year, find it impossible to agree/pass HC bills  Convenient how the facts get left out in politics. And yes, 51 is still greater than 49..I think. Frankly, I don't want a decision made that effects everyone in the country because 51% thought it was better (not right, just better) than what we had....but that is just me.....
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