OK...Finally we get the truth from Obama and his agenda.

[MrLabGuy]

Originally Posted by Dannyell

Maybe u should start pointing ur finger at the people who steal money on Wall Street. I'm not sure what are u complaining about in this reform...

Please do say how is it stopping u from making more money?? If u back the people who build business 'to' fail and they get to keep all the money then there is really nothing more to argue about...

You as well as others here missed the entire point. My comment had nothing to do with wall street reforms and allowing wall street firms or anyone for that matter to make money stealing or breaking the laws.

My focus was on Obama's comment about a point at which we've made "enough" money. I don't want a government deciding how much a person or company can profit before stepping into their bank account to siphon the funds they deem EXTRA to pay for their projects in Washington.

[asindc]

Originally Posted by MrLabGuy

You as well as others here missed the entire point. My comment had nothing to do with wall street reforms and allowing wall street firms or anyone for that matter to make money stealing or breaking the laws.

My focus was on Obama's comment about a point at which we've made "enough" money. I don't want a government deciding how much a person or company can profit before stepping into their bank account to siphon the funds they deem EXTRA to pay for their projects in Washington.

If you think that is what the President's comment means, then I respectfully say that you have missed his point.

[Quicksilver]

At the risk of repeating myself, we know what your focus was.
Here's another view that perhaps you should consider.

On the second part "I do think at a certain point you've made enough money"
IMO it doesn't sound like he's advocating a limit on what anyone can earn.

What I get from his comment is this.
Anyone with a degree of understanding knows that greed
can't be a good thing weather it's greed by an individual or greed from
a corporation. Honestly it's a moral issue which was and still is the
basis for the financial issues we face.

Ask anyone who's made more money than they can spend and
they will tell you that there's a point when making money is no longer
the issue. The most important thing when you get to that point
is what you can do to help other people. No where is his comment
did he say or imply anything regarding government deciding
how much a person or company can profit before stepping into their
bank account to siphon the funds they deem EXTRA to pay for their projects in Washington.

Originally Posted by MrLabGuy

My focus was on Obama's comment about a point at which we've made "enough" money. I don't want a government deciding how much a person or company can profit before stepping into their bank account to siphon the funds they deem EXTRA to pay for their projects in Washington.

[Thunder22]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

At the risk of repeating myself, we know what your focus was.
Here's another view that perhaps you should consider.

On the second part "I do think at a certain point you've made enough money"
IMO it doesn't sound like he's advocating a limit on what anyone can earn.

What I get from his comment is this.
Anyone with a degree of understanding knows that greed
can't be a good thing weather it's greed by an individual or greed from
a corporation. Honestly it's a moral issue which was and still is the
basis for the financial issues we face.

Ask anyone who's made more money than they can spend and
they will tell you that there's a point when making money is no longer
the issue. The most important thing when you get to that point
is what you can do to help other people. No where is his comment
did he say or imply anything regarding government deciding
how much a person or company can profit before stepping into their
bank account to siphon the funds they deem EXTRA to pay for their projects in Washington.

You know what Barry, for someone who disavows and even denies being a Obama supporter, you sure to defend him A LOT.

Just sayin'.....

[Quicksilver]

Hey whats right is right. If you use a quote out of context
which is what happen in this thread then a correction is called for.
I would even support you if you said something that's balanced and correct.
In any event, glad to see you still stalking.

Originally Posted by Thunder22

You know what Barry, for someone who disavows and even denies being a Obama supporter, you sure to defend him A LOT.

Just sayin'.....

[Thunder22]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

Hey whats right is right. If you use a quote out of context
which is what happen in this thread then a correction is called for.
I would even support you if you said something that's balanced and correct.
In any event, glad to see you still stalking.

Out of context? wow.

Anyway, not stalking, I simply read the thread, and your hypocrisy stood out so I commented.

Carry on.

[MrLabGuy]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

Hey whats right is right. If you use a quote out of context
which is what happen in this thread then a correction is called for.
I would even support you if you said something that's balanced and correct.
In any event, glad to see you still stalking.

Liberal Democrats have demonstrated enough through the years with their eagerness to redistribute wealth.

"Social Justice"
"Economic Justice"

Hardly a stretch to attribute his words in this speech to his agenda and that of Congress. How do you think they are going to pay for all these programs. Do you really believe the projected cost of a Health Plan which starts in 4 years will be what they claim? You can't be that naive. You've been around long enough to see how these programs explode in cost overruns and budget shortfalls. Who is going to pay for all this? Democrats and the Obama administration have already laid out a clear path. Those who make more than $150,000 which in the Northern California Bay Area is HARDLY rich better watch their pocket books.

Billionaires can afford to hire law-firms to do their taxes. I can't so I'll end up paying as well as many of you in this bracket.

[JCL]

Well, I would agree with MD.

But back to the link, MLG, which is about financial reforms. Your link states "What was working for them (the banks) wasn't working for ordinary Americans" before it carries on to your highlighted quote about firms that profited at the expense of the country, so it does appear to be about greed on Wall Street more than it is about wage caps on the middle class. It is a suggestion that poor regulatory practices made the crisis worse. So the real agenda of Obama that you are challenging with this thread appears to include bringing financial reforms in.

Question for you: Are you suggesting that you are against these financial reforms? Do regulators have a role in the economy? That may be worth debating more than the Obama is great/Obama is evil proposition.

[MrLabGuy]

Originally Posted by JCL

Well, I would agree with MD.

But back to the link, MLG, which is about financial reforms. Your link states "What was working for them (the banks) wasn't working for ordinary Americans" before it carries on to your highlighted quote about firms that profited at the expense of the country, so it does appear to be about greed on Wall Street more than it is about wage caps on the middle class. It is a suggestion that poor regulatory practices made the crisis worse. So the real agenda of Obama that you are challenging with this thread appears to include bringing financial reforms in.

Question for you: Are you suggesting that you are against these financial reforms? Do regulators have a role in the economy? That may be worth debating more than the Obama is great/Obama is evil proposition.

I'm actually in favor of Financial Reforms and was against the level and scope of the Bank Bailouts. The Banks were responsible for the fiasco and should have been allowed to fail.

At a minimum there should have been some terms to the bailouts which spelled out a payback plan and limits on executive compensation and bonuses. The CFO's and CEO's should have been fired but thanks to Lobbyist and Washington politicians the American taxpayers got hosed again.

My philosophy of personal responsibility extends to business and corporations as well.

[Quicksilver]

Let's see your "through the years" proof!!!
Where's the proof of the socialist agenda
resulting in goose stepping troops in the streets.

Republicans over the years have been in as much control
as Democrats. So whatever the results we see today they
can without a doubt take as much responsibility for the mess
we are in as anyone.

Originally Posted by MrLabGuy

Liberal Democrats have demonstrated enough through the years with their eagerness to redistribute wealth. "Social Justice" "Economic Justice"

Speaking of taxes? it cost me $79.00 for Turbo Tax
to do may taxes. (No law firms needed).
What I paid in taxes (where ever it went)
aint worth blaming Obama for so I have no
cause to defend him or rake him over the
coals regarding the present state of affairs.
I know for sure the republicans were just as
responsible for the tax code as the democrats.

The political machine of this country is run by
many things and you can be sure much of it
has nothing to do with one's political party.

That being said i'm certainly not going to cry in
my beer about something I cannot change.

Originally Posted by MrLabGuy

Billionaires can afford to hire law-firms to do their taxes. I can't so I'll end up paying as well as many of you in this bracket.