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Old 01-12-2011, 07:29 PM
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From what I know about local schools today (two of my family members are teachers), they take reports of odd behavior seriously and document it. Most of the time the police are not notified unless something severe happens. Then the whole history is communicated to them.

I am sure that with all the statements made about him so far (one guy said on the NBC news that he looked over his shoulder when he was at the dry-erase board to keep an eye on Loughner, others say the knew he was gonna show up one day with a weapon and take everyone out) his schools had to notify the police at one time or another.

It's not always clear who is 'mentally ill' and who is gonna snap because they just got fired. In so many other cases, people say they were clueless about a shooter until after the damage was done.
I believe that people did notice things and report them but the question becomes what is done with that information? Does a school just file it away? Do they report it? To who? Is there a repository of information on people who have exhibited bizarre behavior? Even though the school had documented incidences about this guy it is only useful as a retrospective. "Oh yes, I remember him. Here's his file of crazy behavior." What can be done with such information to prevent future behavior? How can dangerousness be predicted with enough surety to take somebody out of society? How does a bunch of entries in a school or business' records intergrate with government records for things like getting a gun or getting a license to be a foster parent or whatever?

That is what I'm talking about. Plenty of people will come out of the woodwork and talk about how they knew the guy was odd, was a loner, ranted about bizarre things but what good does that do after the fact? If so many people knew Loughner was mentally unstable, why wasn't anything done? What could have been done? If something could have been done and was done then perhaps he would have been unable to carry out his mass killing.

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Crazy or not, if he would have wanted to get a gun he could have done so...

Do you think we will judge whether someone should carry a gun based on what they did at school? ...it will never happen...too many factors to take into consideration....and the crazies will still find ways to get guns and kill people.

Unfortunately this is the society we live in.
True. Crazies and people intent on carrying out terror will do whatever they need to in order to accomplish their goal. If he couldn't get a gun then he could have easily driven a car through the crowd (a al Santa Monica Farmer's Market case) and killed even more people. They were in front of a grocery store and vulnerable to an attack with a vehicle.
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