Gerald Celente 10/19/2012

[motordavid]

No old philosopher here, and not a doom expert, but I have been reading/hearing this kind of rant for most of my 6 1/2 decades on our little planet...it has especially ramped up the past few years.

Not a Pollyanna and not saying those kinds of apocalyptic/chaotic things can't or will not happen, but I don't need that line of guesses/predictions to warn me. I don't find anything 'new' or close to a revelation in his stuff...
GL, mD

[tynashracing]

Originally Posted by motordavid

No old philosopher here, and not a doom expert, but I have been reading/hearing this kind of rant for most of my 6 1/2 decades on our little planet...it has especially ramped up the past few years.

Not a Pollyanna and not saying those kinds of apocalyptic/chaotic things can't or will not happen, but I don't need that line of guesses/predictions to warn me. I don't find anything 'new' or close to a revelation in his stuff...
GL, mD

motordavid, I've only been on this planet for 49 1/2 years. But, really only started to question the actions of TPTB after the '08 crisis. I've been in finance for 25 years and have placed too much trust in what we're told is all in our best interest when it comes to monetary control and other areas where our lives are influenced by "their" decisions/actions.
In my quest for information, I've been exposed to the likes of Celente. I find him entertaining in some of the same ways that people love Jim Cramer on CNBC.
Celente was a client at MF Global and supposedly lost 6 figures in that debacle...which he calls a criminal act.
When the MF Global situation unfolded...it became clear that customer segregated accounts were now on the table for the vultures to invade...whether mistakenly or not.
I know that if I were to invade one or all of my clients accounts...I'd be put in jail/prison in a NY minute. These are serious issues. I'm glad you're way ahead in this game. Sounds like you've already gained critical thinking with regard to how our world works. Kudos to you! I'm still learning and feel like I've got a lot of catching up to do! Maybe there are others like me that have gleaned a thing or two from the videos I've posted. I hope so.

[blktoptrvl]

Originally Posted by tynashracing

As for Alex Jones...his delivery isn't refined. He doesn't use a tele-promter. He's probably one of the last real investigative journalists out there with an audience that is reaching millions per week on his daily radio program. I guess being a nut job is paying off for him.
While I don't agree with a lot of what he says...I appreciate that there is at least an opposing voice out there.

Is this the guy you 'appreciate?'

Alex Jones' Piers Morgan Rant: Radio Host Unleashes Explosive Pro-Gun Tirade (VIDEO)

[tynashracing]

Originally Posted by blktoptrvl

Is this the guy you 'appreciate?'

Alex Jones' Piers Morgan Rant: Radio Host Unleashes Explosive Pro-Gun Tirade (VIDEO)

Awwww...did you feel bad for poor Piers?

That guy is a total DB...how about this one:

Piers Morgan Blows Up on Larry Pratt Over Gun Rights - 12/18/2012 - YouTube

Yeah, I'd much rather have A.J. on my team than P.M.


I like this link better for the A.J. rant:
» Alex Jones to Piers Morgan: “You Are NOT Going to Take Our Guns” Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Or, this one:
» Alex Jones: Best Night of Television Ever Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Piers Morgan...
» Deluded Piers Morgan Compares Himself To John Lennon Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

And there's this:
» Piers Morgan, Friend of Drone Assassin Obama, Calls Alex Jones “Scary” Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

[JCL]

I like this one better. When alternative news sites such as Films for Action won't include any Alex Jones information, you know he has lost a lot of credibility. Interesting in that they give all their reasons. This isn't mainstream media shutting him down, this is the very club he aspires to be part of. Pretty telling. Perhaps being a nut job, to borrow a quote from one of his supporters, isn't paying off for him any longer.

New World Order or Business as Usual? -- An Open Letter to Supporters of Infowars and Alex Jones

[blktoptrvl]

Originally Posted by tynashracing

Yeah, I'd much rather have A.J. on my team than P.M.

Other than the name calling, I found the Peirs Morgan arguments to be fairly well reasoned and based in fact and logic.

On the other hand, the Jones video was a steady stream of emotional and selfish gun-love that ignores the issues. I am mystified as to how the latter can be compared favorably to the former.

[blktoptrvl]

Originally Posted by tynashracing

I like this link better for the A.J. rant:
» Alex Jones to Piers Morgan: “You Are NOT Going to Take Our Guns” Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Again, there are no defensible facts spouted in this rant, it is all an emotional diatribe about "you can't have my guns." These are not the arguments of a person seeking a solution to a rampant problem and should be ignored in favor of people who understand and use facts.

If all you want is a gun "cheerleader" who is blind to and does not care about addressing the arguments for gun control - then this is your guy.

[tynashracing]

» Ben Swann Destroys Piers Morgan’s Anti-Gun Argument Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!



And this is the type entertainment that YOU support from Piers?

» Piers Morgan and Guests Discuss Shooting Alex Jones Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!


» Twelve real reasons why Piers Morgan is crazier than Alex Jones Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!


So blktoptrvl, you seem to be arm chairing here...please tell us how to go about defending our "rights" that you have in your signature..."Not your money, your property, your loves, nor even your family... nothing is more precious than your rights. Don't give them away for a bag of magic beans."


I am assuming that you're an American and reside in America, is that correct?

Take up the cause bro if you have better ideas.

[blktoptrvl]

Originally Posted by tynashracing

So blktoptrvl, you seem to be arm chairing here...please tell us how to go about defending our "rights" that you have in your signature..."Not your money, your property, your loves, nor even your family... nothing is more precious than your rights. Don't give them away for a bag of magic beans."


I am assuming that you're an American and reside in America, is that correct?

Take up the cause bro if you have better ideas.

I believe the first thing that should be done is to find a way to disarm all the people we can who are not qualified to own a gun. Second, I would probably make it a crime to leave, lose, loan, sell, or in any way make guns accessible to others who are not qualified.

I would make it an accessory to murder charge if anyone was killed. Third, I would [delete - make the [add - put a] tax on weapons at least equal to the cost of the weapon so that those who want "a cop in every school" can pay for it through their purchases. Fourth, I would probably make self loading illegal and micro print (if possible) the serial number of the gun that the ammunition was purchased for onto the ammo, and then sit back and see if this helps curb the gun violence.

As to how I defend myself, I guess I would have to say, (1) with my brain, (2) if needed, with my fists, (3) if possible, with my feet or gas pedal, (4) if no choice, then with my GLOCK.

See the difference between you and me is that I believe there are alternatives to arming any and everything that moves. For you, this seems to be the first, last, and only solution.

[tynashracing]

Originally Posted by blktoptrvl

I believe the first thing that should be done is to find a way to disarm all the people we can who are not qualified own a gun. Second, I would probably make it a crime to leave, sell, or in any way make guns accessible to others who are not qualified. I would make it an accessory to murder charge if anyone was killed. Third, I would make the tax on weapons at least equal to the cost of the weapon so that those who want "a cop in every school" can pay for it through their purchases. Fourth, I would probably make self loading illegal and micro print (if possible) the serial number of the gun that the ammunition was purchased for onto the ammo, and then sit back and see if this helps curb the gun violence.

As to how I defend myself, I guess I would have to say, (1) with my brain, (2) if needed, with my fists, (3) if possible, with my feet or gas pedal, (4) if no choice, then with my GLOCK.

See the difference between you and me is that I believe there are alternatives to arming any and everything that moves. For you, this seems to be the first, last, and only solution.

Ummm, so how will you deal with gang confiscation? Tax them, create more laws...make them only carry etched weapons or bullets? Unreal.
Yeah, sit back and watch the sheep get sheared. The blood will be on your hands and hands like you that want to penalize law abiding citizens.

Will we also need to "qualify" to be able to use hammers, knives, rocks, clubs, bats, etc?


I'm surprised that there's absolutely NO mention of having a gun free Govt. I mean, if you want to stop innocent killings...shouldn't govt start with themselves?

No, the difference between me and you...I'd like less govt and you want MORE...MUCH MORE. More prisons, more taxes and MORE LAWS. Guess you'll need some Brown Shirts to enforce your plan too, huh!

Yeah, we know how this ends.


So, you never answered my question. Do you live in America and are you a citizen of the USA?