Gerald Celente 10/19/2012

[tynashracing]

Well, all this talk about A.J. has me itching to go ahead and throw more vids on this thread.

This one has Doug Hagmann with A.J. Doug has inside info from a Homeland agent that A.J. was under surveillance while in NY. Quite interesting to hear what's going on. All those that can stomach A.J. will be fine with the content. Those who don't like brash, obnoxious and loud people...would be best to not watch.

WARNING...you are about to enter the Alex Jones show if you click the link below. Do not click this link if you are overly domesticated...it will upset you. Do not click the link if brash, loud or obnoxious people upset you. Do not click the link if you don't believe anything A.J. says, as it will just frustrate you and cause you grief.
For all others...it's really kind of scary to think this is happening in the USA...

Obama's Red List: Alex Jones was Under Gov't Surveillance in NY! - YouTube

[JCL]

No chance of subjecting myself to an Alex Jones video, but just for laughs I went and read Hagmann's site.

"They are coming for your guns", "The plan to destroy Israel", "The Islamic Threat", "Obama's Social Security Card is a Fake", and lots of references to big government, tyranny, the constitution, coverups, more tyranny, communists, the elite, and so on.

It all sounds very familiar.

[tynashracing]

Originally Posted by JCL

No chance of subjecting myself to an Alex Jones video, but just for laughs I went and read Hagmann's site.

"They are coming for your guns", "The plan to destroy Israel", "The Islamic Threat", "Obama's Social Security Card is a Fake", and lots of references to big government, tyranny, the constitution, coverups, more tyranny, communists, the elite, and so on.

It all sounds very familiar.

Ha, I've never even been to Hagmann's website. So, that's all he's about? I'll have to look for myself. Somehow, I bet there's a little more to his "story" website than you give credit for!

BTW, those topics you mentioned are big deals...for those that care about the Constitution, tyranny, communists, gun confiscation, etc.

[JCL]

Originally Posted by tynashracing

Ha, I've never even been to Hagmann's website. So, that's all he's about? I'll have to look for myself. Somehow, I bet there's a little more to his "story" website than you give credit for!

BTW, those topics you mentioned are big deals...for those that care about the Constitution, tyranny, communists, gun confiscation, etc.

He is about conspiracy theories, trying to prove your president isn't who he is, and, based on the fact that he calls his website homelandsecurityus.com, siphoning off web traffic to support the advertising services on his home page. Pretty laughable.

Also, you are implying that only people who buy in to your beliefs care about the constitution. You are painting with a pretty broad brush there. What is it like to believe that you are the only one in the room that is right?

[tynashracing]

Originally Posted by JCL

Also, you are implying that only people who buy in to your beliefs care about the constitution. You are painting with a pretty broad brush there. What is it like to believe that you are the only one in the room that is right?

Why would you say that? I'm not implying anything

What is like to be a troll that follows me around baiting everything I post or type?

JCL...I think it's time to just be done with you too.

Oh BTW, it's a bit ironic that over in the Lounge...a post was made on the Gun Control thread by noncom23...NOT A FREAK'N WORD UTTERED BY YOU. Wow, someone actually shut you up...no great come back? I'm so disappointed JCL, I figured you would've had some kind of argument?

Nope, I think you like to just follow me around and post your dissatisfaction with the content or me.

JCL, do you have an obsession with me? Should I be concerned with how much attention you give to my posts and my threads? Starting to seem a bit unhealthy don't you think?

[JCL]

Originally Posted by tynashracing

Why would you say that? I'm not implying anything

Let's take this one step at a time.

You said that those that care about the constitution consider communism and tyranny a big deal. That is what I characterized as your belief system.

Let's say I don't care about communism (because it is not an issue) or tyranny (because dead English kings aren't a threat, and your guns won't help you with the economic tyranny you are already subject to).

Your argument is that, therefore, I don't care about the constitution. It is exactly what you implied.

And then you ask why I would say that. You even roll your eyes to imply that it is a ridiculous conclusion. Can you not follow your own points? Your reasoning capability appears to be very limited if you can't understand that something you said a few lines earlier, restated, is the same thing.

The above wasn't even the question in the post.

[tynashracing]

Originally Posted by JCL

Let's take this one step at a time.

You said that those that care about the constitution consider communism and tyranny a big deal. That is what I characterized as your belief system.

I didn't say what you wrote above. I said "BTW, those topics you mentioned are big deals...for those that care about the Constitution, tyranny, communists, gun confiscation, etc."

It's all inclusive. That each one of those topics in of itself is a big deal. You've attempted to pull another one of your manipulation tricks and twist or turn what I wrote.

The color that you painted Hagmann with your "broad brush stroke" implies he's another conspiracy theorist... ""They are coming for your guns", "The plan to destroy Israel", "The Islamic Threat", "Obama's Social Security Card is a Fake", and lots of references to big government, tyranny, the constitution, coverups, more tyranny, communists, the elite, and so on.
It all sounds very familiar."

Right, it all sounds very familiar...another "nut job", "conspiracy theorist", right? You said this in post #6 "While Celente doesn't come across very well, Alex Jones, by way of comparison, comes across as a nutcase."

You are on the attack...with practically everything I say or when I post content. You're attempting to manipulate what I say and it's meaning.

Shouldn't you ask for clarification before belittling me when you say "What is it like to believe that you are the only one in the room that is right?" This obviously implies that I'm delusional.
Seems like it's OK when you imply something and yet...even when I don't make an implication...I get attacked personally.

JCL, I truly don't mind the negative comments on the subjects I post...it's when it becomes a personal attack that I want to lash back. Sadly, I have reverted to some ad hominems. I'm not proud of that...but a human can only take so much personal abuse. You and blktoptrvl made this about anything but the original content of what Celente said in the interview.

I'm asking you nicely to stop writing your sniping remarks about me personally.

This is supposed to be a forum for entertainment...not personal bashings.

Also, there's actually some content that might be posted just for some info...which is why this thread was started.

Either stay away from me and my threads or learn to stop with the personal attacks and make it about the content.

[JCL]

Originally Posted by tynashracing

...it's a bit ironic that over in the Lounge...a post was made on the Gun Control thread by noncom23...NOT A FREAK'N WORD UTTERED BY YOU. Wow, someone actually shut you up...no great come back? I'm so disappointed JCL, I figured you would've had some kind of argument?

I never responded to noncom23 because he was simply posting a rebuttal to my earlier posts in that thread about the success of gun controls in other countries, and the difficulty in comparing countries that use different metrics for violence. It wasn't new info. It was just another clip from a blog. And it had already been refuted.