What's the matter with Donald Trump.

[Happy]

Originally Posted by Maruzo

I think you know as much as I do he could have done a lot more than what he did.

Again, he doesn't have to turn this into a communist country in order to save more lives this year.

He just had to make the right policy decisions and promote the effective measures that stops the spread of the virus in a meaningful way.

It can be done.

We've seen what this country turned into these past couple of months.

Fear of it becoming a communist country is the one thing you're focused on?

Where's your priorities?

I think at the end of the day when you hold a high public office, and you look back at where are you started and where you ended, you will find, that you probably could’ve done a few things differently.

I think that pretty much applies to any and everybody.

For me there’s only one human that walked this earth that was perfect. Other than that, I think that anyone else is probably gonna say, I could’ve done this or that better. My personal belief in the statement above is my personal opinion.

I think the best policy was to let each individual governor of each state govern their state. Whatever circumstance to that particular state. Whether it be total lockdown, masks, no masks, whatever the case. I think that it was the governor’s that should’ve made these decisions very early on. China had said very early on that it was airborne.

I do not fear my country becoming a communist country. I fear it becoming a socialist country.

My priority at this time is solely focusing on the well-being of my family, period.

[crystalworks]

Originally Posted by Maruzo

Every country faced the same issues because of this pandemic.

That's not the reason why we're one the countries that suffered the most.

Again. Lots of people were always going to die. Hell, the UK has more deaths per million citizens than we do. There is no magic bullet solution to covid 19, and there never was.

I am not excusing Trump from being a horrible person. Probably even someone who should be in jail (probably could be said of more than a few politicians). But until he's convicted of something... I can't condemn him as a criminal. Basic tenet of our Constitution. I certainly don't like or respect him as a person from what I've seen/read about him before and after he got into politics.

There are plenty of valid reasons to attack Trump on the campaign trail, but the Democrats should be careful focusing heavily on covid as they are equally responsible for how things went and are going.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by Happy

Confession..? There was no crime committed.



I am continually perplexed, at how you believe a single individual holds responsibility for this pandemic in the USA. And, if there is a single individual totally responsible for this pandemic, and that’s a big “IF”, China is the most likely candidate.



Probably because that’s your personal opinion.



Go back and review the statements made by Pelosi, Biden, and other Democrats during the same time Trump made the statement to Woodward, or as you call it, a confession.



That is a personal problem.

This is not about where the virus originated. It is about what was done to minimize the impact on US citizens.

A leader is responsible for the outcome of their actions as well as the actions of their management team. As President, Trump sets the tone for the nation. His tone on Covid-19 was there was nothing to worry about. In Trump's own words he says he downplayed the threat of COVID 19 so we wouldn't panic. The truth does not create panic. Moreover, in this case, the truth would have saved lives. He is still downplaying the threat. As an example his latest rally--no social distancing, no masks required and a large gathering of people. All primary requirements to avoid if we want to get the virus under control.

Biden warned Trump in Jan of 2020 and recommended actions to take to minimize the impact of Covid-19 on Americans. In Feb of 2020 Pelosi said listen to the scientists-prevention-prevention-prevention.

The basis for government by the people is voting. If one doesn't vote they are part of the problem.

The more people that just take care of their own the longer Covid-19 will be killing people. Whether we like it or not, we all have a responsibility to others.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by Maruzo

I was really thinking of America instead of the whole human population.

The smart ones will learn and adapt. Not so sure about the average Americans.

As we've found out these last couple of months. There's just too many idiots who fail to learn the lesson and follow the "inconvenient" health guidelines.

It sucks that the Trump machine continues to advertise bs conspiracy theories, pinning the woes of the average citizens on the other parties.

I think the democrats also do the same thing, just perhaps not as reckless and baseless as the other side at the moment.

Listening to the Republican rising star Eric Trump giving a campaign speech is the equivalent of listening to the orientation speech of a cult for the Trump utopia.

The saddest part is there's no bipartisan efforts to solve major social / economic problems in this country.

The ultimate goal of any political decision is to win the election and once done, to continue maintaining that power.

All politicians shouldn't be dumped in the same bucket. There are many trying to do the right thing. I agree that the lack of bipartisan effort is a huge problem. As polarized as we are now the only, hopefully short term, solution to get things done is to have the majority of the house, senate and the president be of the same party.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by Happy

When you make comments like, “you don’t understand why it’s not obvious to average citizens”? You are coming across as if you have a higher intelligence than other people.

It’s offensive.

I wouldn't say average citizens. I don't know what that means. I would say I don't understand how so many are still Trump supporters. How can that be?

Perhaps he is right that he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th. avenue and he wouldn't lose supporters.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by Happy

And just to be clear, I am not a registered voter.

Is that something you are proud to say?

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by Happy

I am not convinced he failed us.

I also think he failed us. What makes you believe he didn't?

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by Happy

No I did not interpret your comment as you hinting that we are a communist country. My response was your hope was that the president would come out and order Americans to do whatever the right thing is it in your opinion. And what I’m saying is I don’t believe that all Americans would be on board with one man or woman giving an order and then blindly following it.

Lots of folks break the law regardless of the consequences. Certainly an order from the President would not be an exception. But, an order from the President would have been infinitely more beneficial to the American public than downplaying the pandemic. Behind the order would have been the rationale for the order, explaining the importance of everyone doing their part so there would be nothing blind about it.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by Happy

No, I just don’t like how your opinions are demeaning to others.

There’s nothing bombshell, nor were there any admissions to Woodward. It was simple to panic the country or not to panic that’s the question?

It was extremely difficult to buy toiletries, household cleaners, and groceries at one point for many weeks in my community. Any more panic than had already been presented could have been detrimental to my families survival.

So when you become stubborn with your opinions, you fail to realize that others might not have experienced the same experiences you had therefore your opinion may not hold merit to others.

JMHO

So if Trump said there will be some minor flooding on the East coast when in reality it was two feet of rain all across the country in just 8 hours that would be good because there would be less panic?

[Happy]

This is not about where the virus originated. It is about what was done to minimize the impact on US citizens.

A leader is responsible for the outcome of their actions as well as the actions of their management team. As President, Trump sets the tone for the nation. His tone on Covid-19 was there was nothing to worry about. In Trump's own words he says he downplayed the threat of COVID 19 so we wouldn't panic. The truth does not create panic. Moreover, in this case, the truth would have saved lives. He is still downplaying the threat. As an example his latest rally--no social distancing, no masks required and a large gathering of people. All primary requirements to avoid if we want to get the virus under control.

Like when Pelosi told everyone during the last week of February to go to Chinatown and celebrate. No social distancing, or masks were involved then.

Like when Biden called Trump a racist for limiting travel.

Biden warned Trump in Jan of 2020 and recommended actions to take to minimize the impact of Covid-19 on Americans. In Feb of 2020 Pelosi said listen to the scientists-prevention-prevention-prevention.

Like when Pelosi told everyone during the last week of February to go to Chinatown and celebrate. No social distancing, or masks were involved then.

Like when Biden called Trump a racist for limiting travel.

Have you ever been to San Francisco? It’s not a clean city. I was born and raised in San Francisco Bay Area.

Pelosi’s streets are full of filth. People urinating and defecating on the sidewalks, smoking crack, shooting dope, having sex, and Jesus knows what else.

This is where she said we need to go and celebrate. Again, with no masks or social distancing, late February.

The basis for government by the people is voting. If one doesn't vote they are part of the problem.

Was I part of the problem when I was defending the constitution for you, all while taking the chance of losing my life, FOR YOU!?