What's the matter with Donald Trump.

[EODguy]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

From my history with you, I believe it was intentional.

Your could have said-if I, or if one and you chose to use if you as the example. Regardless, my response stands, thin skinned or not.

"If you were to accuse your wife of cheating every chance you got, she would at a minimum divorce you and find someone else or just find someone else without the divorce, since if you're being accused of something relentlessly you might as well do it..."

I did say if...

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[EODguy]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

Shouldn't you be well versed in what Biden has done? The list below should help fill the hole.



TOP ACCOMPLISHMENTS (Not a complete list)



Lowering Costs of Families’ Everyday Expenses

More People Are Working Than At Any Point in AmericanHistory



Making More in America



Rescued the Economy and Changed the Course of the Pandemic



Rebuilding our Infrastructure

Historic Expansion of Benefits and Services for Toxic Exposed VeteransThe First Meaningful Gun Violence Reduction Legislation in 30 Years



Protected Marriage for LGBTQI+ and Interracial Couples



Historic Confirmation of Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson and Federal Judges of Diverse Backgrounds



Rallied the World to Support Ukraine in Response to Putin’s Aggression



Strengthened Alliances and Partnerships to Deliver for the American People



Successful Counterterrorism Missions Against the Leaders of Al Qaeda and ISIS



Executive Orders Protecting Reproductive Rights



Historic Student Debt Relief for Middle- and Working-Class Families



Ending our Failed Approach to Marijuana



Advancing Equity and Racial Justice, Including Historic Criminal Justice Reform



Delivering on the Most Aggressive Climate and Environmental Justice Agenda in American History



More People with Health Insurance Than Ever Before



Your list is about 75% false and the rest needs clarification to determine if they are true or also false.



"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

1. The cost for families everyday expenses has risen due to inflation and even though inflation has decreased it still hasn't gone to pre-inflation levels or below making it still more than before.

2. Trump's incentives are what lured companies to return to the US, so not a Biden accomplishment.

3. Rescued the economy? Bidens' policies have in every metric hurt the economy. Even the stock market is having more people sell shorts.

4. There have been no significant rebuilding of our infrastructure, it's to the point that even democrat sympathetic news is saying Buttigieg is worthless.

5. Veterans benefits for toxic exposure was introduced under Trump and was simply signed by Biden, he didn't fight for us at all.

6. Gun laws should be almost nonexistent. You would shit if you had to go through 1/4 of the steps gun owners do if it applied to your freedom of speech, religion or anything else in the Bill of Rights. But I get it... "Hey fuck that 2A Right as it's fine to violate something because you're for it..."

7. LGBTQ etc had zero federal encroachment on their States laws regarding marriage and same for mixed race couples. The only mentions were by shitbags on the news saying their opinion.

8. Not sure why you think Ketanji Brown Jackson is something historic? Apparently you don't recall Thurgood Marshall, Clarence Thomas? Now if you're talking about female justices then there has been... Sandra Day O'Connor, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan and Amy Coney Barrett of which 2 were women of color and one was Jewish. So Ketanji Brown Jackson's nomination and appointment was nothing new or earth shattering.

9. I have no issue with supporting Ukraine, but Biden has approved so much aid in actual weapons that if the US entered a conflict tomorrow we have less than 14 days of all munitions before we are are out (5 days for artillery) so not even accounting for cash his administration has potentially fucked us as hard as a bank account on April 15th.

10. Strengthened Alliances and Partnerships? Completely vague and I truly can't find one international example of something that benefits America to any degree that offsets the loss/benefit to the other country(ies)

11. There have been no ISIS or Al Qaeda missions since his changed time-line withdrawal from Afghanistan.

12. The overturning of Roe v. Wade only made it a State level decision so any executive order would then be going against States Rights ala Roe v. Wade

13. Student Debt Relief was found Unconstitutional, so nope...

14. Mass pardons for Marijuana is just a form of Ex Post Facto and his "study group" doesn't mean shit since the group hasn't come to a conclusion and doesn't have the power to make/change laws...

15. Equity!?! What moron thinks it's a good idea to have people who don't work hard receive the same benefits as those who do? This was actually tried at the founding of Jamestown and led to cannibalism.

16. Climate and Environmental Justice? The US dropped out of the Paris Accord and still beat the goals set for the United States (the only country to meet and exceed the reductions) yet every rule, law etc punishes the US and allows China, India, Europe to violate their reduction goals while billing the USA for "clean energy"

17. More People on health insurance? If you mean Obama care where they get subsidies from those who don't qualify for it (taxpayers expense) then ask yourself why so many more people NEED the subsidies now than previously...

18. My list is about 75% false?

Provide proof, you are constantly using generalizations for what I can only believe is due to you being unable to make a cognizant provable statement and the fear you have of your worldviews being found wanting.

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[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by EODguy

"If you were to accuse your wife of cheating every chance you got, she would at a minimum divorce you and find someone else or just find someone else without the divorce, since if you're being accused of something relentlessly you might as well do it..."

I did say if...

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You posted- if you. The proper way would have been to post- If I or If one. The same for- your wife, should have been If my wife or if ones wife.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by EODguy

1. making it still more than before.

2. Trump's incentives are what lured companies to return to the US, so not a Biden accomplishment.

3. Rescued the economy? Bidens' policies have in every metric hurt the economy. Even the stock market is having more people sell shorts.

4. There have been no significant rebuilding of our infrastructure, it's to the point that even democrat sympathetic news is saying Buttigieg is worthless.

5. Veterans benefits for toxic exposure was introduced under Trump and was simply signed by Biden, he didn't fight for us at all.

6. Gun laws should be almost nonexistent. You would shit if you had to go through 1/4 of the steps gun owners do if it applied to your freedom of speech, religion or anything else in the Bill of Rights. But I get it... "Hey fuck that 2A Right as it's fine to violate something because you're for it..."

7. LGBTQ etc had zero federal encroachment on their States laws regarding marriage and same for mixed race couples. The only mentions were by shitbags on the news saying their opinion.

8. Not sure why you think Ketanji Brown Jackson is something historic? Apparently you don't recall Thurgood Marshall, Clarence Thomas? Now if you're talking about female justices then there has been... Sandra Day O'Connor, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan and Amy Coney Barrett of which 2 were women of color and one was Jewish. So Ketanji Brown Jackson's nomination and appointment was nothing new or earth shattering.

9. I have no issue with supporting Ukraine, but Biden has approved so much aid in actual weapons that if the US entered a conflict tomorrow we have less than 14 days of all munitions before we are are out (5 days for artillery) so not even accounting for cash his administration has potentially fucked us as hard as a bank account on April 15th.

10. Strengthened Alliances and Partnerships? Completely vague and I truly can't find one international example of something that benefits America to any degree that offsets the loss/benefit to the other country(ies)

11. There have been no ISIS or Al Qaeda missions since his changed time-line withdrawal from Afghanistan.

12. The overturning of Roe v. Wade only made it a State level decision so any executive order would then be going against States Rights ala Roe v. Wade

13. Student Debt Relief was found Unconstitutional, so nope...

14. Mass pardons for Marijuana is just a form of Ex Post Facto and his "study group" doesn't mean shit since the group hasn't come to a conclusion and doesn't have the power to make/change laws...

15. Equity!?! What moron thinks it's a good idea to have people who don't work hard receive the same benefits as those who do? This was actually tried at the founding of Jamestown and led to cannibalism.

16. Climate and Environmental Justice? The US dropped out of the Paris Accord and still beat the goals set for the United States (the only country to meet and exceed the reductions) yet every rule, law etc punishes the US and allows China, India, Europe to violate their reduction goals while billing the USA for "clean energy"

17. More People on health insurance? If you mean Obama care where they get subsidies from those who don't qualify for it (taxpayers expense) then ask yourself why so many more people NEED the subsidies now than previously...

18. My list is about 75% false?

Provide proof, you are constantly using generalizations for what I can only believe is due to you being unable to make a cognizant provable statement and the fear you have of your worldviews being found wanting.

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Posts from anyone that lack civility and include demeaning remarks compromise that person's integrity and overall character.

[EODguy]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

Posts from anyone that lack civility and include demeaning remarks compromise that person's integrity and overall character.

So more generalizations....
Got it.

As for civility, I am sure that I didn't disparage you in the post you quoted.

To be fair, since I and many of my friends (many dead/injured) wrote a blank check to support and defend the Constitution and that many of the changes you and yours want to make to America are completely contrary to the Constitution, it makes us feel contempt towards the party holding anti-Constitutional views.

As for character and integrity I'm not the one supporting a party that believes that a 51% vote means they get to override other peoples Rights just to make snowflakes feel warm and fuzzy.

Soft men make hard times.
Hard times make hard men.
Hard men make easy times.
Easy times make soft men.

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[EODguy]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

Posts from anyone that lack civility and include demeaning remarks compromise that person's integrity and overall character.

"you being unable to make a cognizant provable statement"

That was not a demeaning statement if if it's true and since you failed to offer any support for what you're asserting, I would say my statement is now proven correct.



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[bcredliner]

A demeaning statement rather true or false is still a demeaning statement.

[EODguy]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

A demeaning statement rather true or false is still a demeaning statement.

So your own statements, that I referred to caused you to become or believe yourself to be less respected...

Sounds like I wasn't the one who caused that issue of yours.

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[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by EODguy

So your own statements, that I referred to caused you to become or believe yourself to be less respected...

Sounds like I wasn't the one who caused that issue of yours.

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You can call me what you want, it's fine with me. A demeaning statement does not mean the recipient feels demeaned because of it. It is the intention of the statement. The intention of such a statement is to cause a person to feel demeaned. That doesn't mean they do.

Would it be OK if we get back to addressing what's wrong with Donald Trump? There is enough there to continue this thread for a few decades.

[Maruzo]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

You can call me what you want, it's fine with me. A demeaning statement does not mean the recipient feels demeaned because of it. It is the intention of the statement. The intention of such a statement is to cause a person to feel demeaned. That doesn't mean they do.

Would it be OK if we get back to addressing what's wrong with Donald Trump? There is enough there to continue this thread for a few decades.

I agree with this request. The thread is about Donald Trump. Not about the posters.

We can all have different view points, and we can do our best to convince others our view point is correct. But at the end of the day we should be civilized enough to discuss in a respectful manner.

None of us is better than the other, that should be the base point of all our discussions.