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Old 01-14-2014, 11:10 AM
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We don't need Voter ID cards in the USA........we need Voter IQ cards!

Saw Leno last week, he went out on the street to interview smug, know-it-all 20something college grads on general knowledge. Asked a woman if she knew who the VP of the US was.....she had no idea! Explained he would be president if something were to happen to Obama....still no idea. Showed her an 8x10 pic of Biden......no idea. Told her his name is Joe Bi---, finish the last name.....NO IDEA!

Asked her who made a vid swinging on a wrecking ball....she instantly responds Mylie Cyrus!

I weep for the future of this country.
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Old 01-14-2014, 11:47 AM
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Ah, so sit around and do nothing since you believe it's old news, yes?
there was an old joke, and i am not sure if i can tell it the right way.. but it goes something like this:

a nice looking lady is sitting at a bar, having her cocktail... a fellow sits next to her and strikes a conversation... after a bit, he is like, you are so good looking, blah-blah-blah, i will give you a million bucks to [email protected]#$ you... she is like, oh my God, that is crazy... but... a million is a million.. so, she says ok... after having couple more drinks, he is like - you know, a million is a lot of money for a piece of @$$, how about a half a mil... she is like, ok.. few more drinks - the number drops into simple thousands... at the end, before leaving the bar, he says, you know what honey, I am going to pay you a hundred bucks... at which point, she is all upset and she is like - i am not a whore to do it for $100!!! his response? Well honey, we already established WHO you are, now we are haggling over the price...

my point is - so many wrongs had been done by us since even before the IRS establishment, that at this point pretending that we have any liberties is just ludicrous...

Even the voting... why are we, as the PEOPLE, not trusted with DIRECT elections of the president? are we not educated enough to make a decision? some funky country in africa has direct elections and we have buffers where the "aristocrats" make decisions for "plebes"...

or, the monitoring of the americans in the name of the greater safety and security.... i need to google this, but wasn't it one of the US presidents who said that if we sacrifice our freedoms in the name of security, we deserve neither?...

At this point, the last worry is the obamacare... i would say the biggest worry is the INSURANCE institute as a whole that we have built - because of the insurance payouts, we have the most litigious society out there... because the insurance companies do not wish to make those payouts, a lot of people can not insure things... you have to clean up the snow in front of your house... I have to do jack - the snow came from God, it will melt when the sun comes out!!! the doctors in pennsylvania either leaving the state or quit the profession altogether - two primary care docs that i had, quit their private practice... as they told the patients, the insurance coverage for malpractice was too high for them to stay in business... the insurance investigators are more thorough than the cops or FBI... The reason lawyers can sue McD for spilled coffee, because the McD has insurance policies that will pay out..

And i really believe that the insurance industry is an evil child of communism - "from everyone a little bit that they can afford, and to everyone as they need"... this is the main communist principle... and this is how the insurance companies operate - look at the roots of their operations, go back 300-400 years, when the Lloyds of London was born in late 1600-s... spread the risks... I have a benefit (or, rather a disadvantage) of studying Soviet Law, Soviet Enterprising and other Soviet bull$shit subjects in my college, and i can tell you - the worst iteration of the communism is happening here, in the US... and the Big Brother is just a cherry on top!!!...

If i did not love my country with all its faults and blessings, i'd probably run and hide somewhere on a tropical island...
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What TiAgX5 said, in his anecdote...
Since many of the population gets its 'news' from Yahoo, OMG!, et al, and 'reading' is limited to what one sees on FB/Twitter, et al, the informed hoi polloi is an oxymoron, imo.

Back at the Elected Geniuses Ranch, there are few elected that I would hire to help me wash one of my cars, let alone introduce, 'write' or pass the plethora of worthless and overwritten legislation of the past several decades.

I cannot think of any current politician that would make a good prez, let alone be a good elected official at any level.

We are clueless as a group, and nearly completely unempowered.
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It was Ben Franklin TermX5.

"In 1755 (Pennsylvania Assembly: Reply to the Governor, Tue, Nov 11, 1755), Franklin wrote: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

This phrasing was also the motto in Historical Review of Pennsylvania, attributed to Franklin

It's important to note that this sentiment, with many variations, was much used in the Revolutionary period by Franklin and others."

Kind of ironic this phrase was "much used" in the Revolutionary period!
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It was Ben Franklin TermX5.

"In 1755 (Pennsylvania Assembly: Reply to the Governor, Tue, Nov 11, 1755), Franklin wrote: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

This phrasing was also the motto in Historical Review of Pennsylvania, attributed to Franklin

It's important to note that this sentiment, with many variations, was much used in the Revolutionary period by Franklin and others."

Kind of ironic this phrase was "much used" in the Revolutionary period!


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No comment on health care or insurance.

But on the subject of the (un)informed population, I would just comment that it isn't just a US thing. One of the sites I frequent did an exercise to ask US and British citizens to label a map of each other's part of the world. See the link for more examples. Results were pretty good.

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This is What Happens When Americans are Asked to Label Europe and Brits are Asked to Label the US «TwistedSifter
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They mis-spelled Flor-DUH! Florida is the old spelling.

Soon the plates there will read "The Freakshow State"
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