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ylwjacket 02-06-2016 11:19 PM

Majority of what Americans? Up north and California? You may not be from the south, but that doesn't mean you're correct.

TiAgX5 02-10-2016 12:14 PM

I find it funny how the confederate flag is identified as "pro-slavery".

The inroads to civil war were due to total lack of southern state reps in congress. Congress made laws that forbid cotton sales to Europe, fixed prices (way below what the materials would bring overseas), this meant the southern states only option was to send good to the textile mills in the northeast states (where all the congress members were from).

The southern states viewed this as "taxation without representation", the very reason that lead to war against England (what difference does it make if the oppressors are overseas or here).

Due to the heavy influx of European immigrants into the northeastern US at the time, the textile mill owners had 10s of thousands of skilled European people willing to work at low rates (this lead to many large mill owners seeing no need for slave labor, and releasing them).

The common misconception that Lincoln was a "great emancipator" is just that, a misconception.

Look at the facts,

1) The Emancipation Proclamation was produced almost 3 years after the start of the Civil War.

2) The document ONLY applied to slaves held by states posing a threat to the union... President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation on January 1, 1863, as the nation approached its third year of bloody civil war. The proclamation declared "that all persons held as slaves" within the rebellious states "are, and henceforward shall be free."

3) Funny how he only released slaves in "rebellious" states, seems he was trying to "break the back" of southern states (his opposition), but Union slave owners were free to continue the practice. Hell, even slaves in southern states that were under Union control were EXEMPT FROM FREEDOM!!!

Any statement that the Civil War was fought over slavery is retarded, Lincoln "switched the script" to slavery years after the start. What happens to recent presidents popularity when they redefine why they went to war?

ylwjacket 02-17-2016 09:19 PM

Unfortunately, the flag was co-opted by racists later, which has us where we are relative to it.

TiAgX5 05-13-2016 02:40 PM

A discussion on the history/stats/countries/ethnicities of slaves/slave traders.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXwOdSqF8dI

Seems like if ANY flag on the American Continent should represent racism, it should be the flag of Brazil!

Found this video interesting seeing as Jim Goad and I have a few mutual friends in the NE. Actually met Jim a few years ago and discussed this topic.

Court X3 05-22-2016 06:32 PM

All part of the liberal movement to get us to forget our past. As a person of color, it doesn't offend me, hell I have one flying in my garage! haha Fact is, liberals are just pushing their equality for all. Get a few non-educated black people riled up over their history and take it from there.

I'm offended by the LBGT flag, but you better not say anything to them or you will find yourself under the media hammer!

crystalworks 06-15-2018 12:30 PM

Everyone is so sensitive now. It's crazy. Bunch of snowflakes on both sides of the aisle. Flags are important to someone... let em fly. Stars and bars, stars and stripes, rainbow, whatever. Everyone thinks they have the moral high ground now and the right to impose it on whomever. Rosanne, Kathy Griffin, Samantha Bee, etc. Everyone gets their panties in a twist. This nation is suffering a death by a thousand politically correct cuts. Couple that with our horrible electoral process, paid for government, and lack of any sense of privacy anymore... and I'd say we are on borrowed time.

I'll admit I don't necessarily have a positive view of someone in a lifted truck flying the Texas flag on one streamer and the confederate flag on the other. But I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, not going to flip him/her the bird, and I'm certainly not going to cause a huge fuss to impose my beliefs on others.

Quicksilver 06-15-2018 05:14 PM

I believe the point here is that some people know what flying the Texas flag on one streamer and the confederate flag on the other means.
That being the case some would prefer that they "not" impose their beliefs on others. "Just saying"

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Originally Posted by crystalworks (Post 1136050)
Everyone is so sensitive now. It's crazy. Bunch of snowflakes on both sides of the aisle. Flags are important to someone... let em fly. Stars and bars, stars and stripes, rainbow, whatever. Everyone thinks they have the moral high ground now and the right to impose it on whomever. Rosanne, Kathy Griffin, Samantha Bee, etc. Everyone gets their panties in a twist. This nation is suffering a death by a thousand politically correct cuts. Couple that with our horrible electoral process, paid for government, and lack of any sense of privacy anymore... and I'd say we are on borrowed time.

I'll admit I don't necessarily have a positive view of someone in a lifted truck flying the Texas flag on one streamer and the confederate flag on the other. But I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, not going to flip him/her the bird, and I'm certainly not going to cause a huge fuss to impose my beliefs on others.


upallnight 01-10-2021 12:50 PM

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So we are all right with this image of a rioter/insurgent parading around inside the Capitol with a Confederate flag?

Happy 01-10-2021 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1197563)
So we are all right with this image of a rioter/insurgent parading around inside the Capitol with a Confederate flag?


ANY AND ALL VIOLENCE IS UNACCEPTABLE

upallnight 01-10-2021 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy (Post 1197572)
ANY AND ALL VIOLENCE IS UNACCEPTABLE

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Who say we can’t find common ground.


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