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Old 06-23-2015, 09:10 PM
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Confederate Battle Flag Issue - It is about time...

I find it very interesting that once Gov. Nikki Haley of South Carolina finally came out and called on the South Carolina Legislature to remove the Confederate battle flag from the State Capitol grounds. Hot on her heels was Senator Lindsey Graham, a Republican presidential candidate from South Carolina, who initially said the flag was “part of who we are,” and now urged the SC Legislature to remove the flag from the Capitol grounds.

Once this happened, all of the announced Republican Presidential candidates started to finally come off the preverbal “fence” and make similar calls. While I think that Mitt Romney is a true “empty suit”, I give him credit for unequivocally stating before this, actually this past weekend, that the Confederate battle flag should be removed from flying over the State House in the SC capital, on public property. It took photos that have gone viral of an alleged deranged young racist white man who has been charged with and has admitted to killing nine African-Americans inside a Church in Charleston, SC, was seen holding the Confederate battle flag in photographs.

This is starting to look like a groundswell movement rapidly gaining momentum of the majority of Americans to finally admit and accept that the Confederate battle flag is for most people a very strong symbol of the southern states attempt at secession from the Union, primarily in their attempt to maintain their ability to continue slavery of blacks.

I for one am amazed in the speed of this movement and applaud it for being very long overdue. This horrendous act of cold blooded mass murder, committed by someone, from what we can tell so far, was a deranged fanatical racist has apparently hit a national cord in the publics moral and ethical psyche.

I have never accepted the argument by some that the Confederate battle flag (CBF), is a symbol of southern pride or the commemoration of southern soldiers who died during the Civil War. I do not suggest that we forget our history with the southern states, but am certainly glad that more and more people realize that the Union won the Civil War and that part of that victory should have been the banishment of the CBF to museums. The analogy is to how post WWII, the German government banished and outlawed the Nazi swastika from any public display, since it held such a similar strong negative symbolism

For most others, but not all, outside of the southern states, the CBF has been associated with sinister hate, bigotry and racism, primarily displayed by minimally educated,. lower-middle class whites who claim that they are so-called victims of government over-reach and resent the growing trend in this country of pluralistic, multi-culturalism and expanding influx to all states of non-whites. They fear the change in their very little world and cannot accept that our society is evolving and they stubbornly refuse to do so. For those of us old enough to remember, the CBF was used by the racist KKK as one of their symbols. It was in the 1960’s during the growing civil rights movement that the CBF was brought out in the open in increasing frequency and rapidly gained its symbolism of association with the southern states Jim Crow-era governments and the idea of white supremacy.

I am not naïve enough to think that this long overdue gesture will eliminate the bigotry and racism of a significant number of Americans, who live not just in the south, but are all over our country, primarily in more isolated rural environments. But it is a significant step in the right direction. We can wish that it is the beginning of a major shifting in public attitude and consciousness to bring this country back to what most people believe it should be, as true patriotic Americans and push the wacko lunatic bigoted racist minority to the fringe where hopefully they cannot do much damage other than spew their fear and hate speech to their fellow asshole slugs.
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The American Flag flew over hate and slavery long before the Stars and Bars was conceived. My immigrant ancestor knew a sailor's 'starter' well wielded by a press-gang. The American Flag flew over the battlefield deaths of a half-million Americans fighting for their vision of freedom. The American Flag continues to fly over modern and post-modern aggression reduced to bathetic neologisms - microaggression.

Internet scholarship, such as it is, is only one leaf deep. George Santayana's doom is broader and deeper than merely repeating history (no quotes). 1905 Reason in Living, Vol. 1, Reason in Common Sense: "Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
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Now we can't have the Dukes of Hazzard because the flag on their car offends people. Well I have had it. The rainbow flag offends me. Good wholesome shows are gone and replaced with LGBT shows. Where is this country going??????
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You better not be bad mouthing those rainbow flag people.
No telling what will happen to ya. Hey why not have a new
dukes of hazard show with the flag in your photo on the car.
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haha , you lot want to move to political correctness England.
then you might have something to moan about ,
ill give you an example, during the football world cup ( soccer to you foreigners ) fans over here decided to fly the English flag (George cross)
the councils then decided to ban this as it would offend the NON English living here
how can you ban the flag of your country?
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Now NASCAR wants to ban the flag. That won't go over to good with those people.
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Nikki Haley is an traitor, who is now a liberal hero posing as a conservative.
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Nikki Haley is an traitor, who is now a liberal hero posing as a conservative.
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You may not agree with her actions but her opinion and actions reflect what the majority of Americans believe and feel. If you live in South Carolina you can certainly decide not to vote for her if and when she decides to run for re-election. Otherwise, get over it....

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