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Can I get an Amen.!?

I'm not religious, but that's scripture I can get behind Happy. :D :thumbup:

264 vs 214 projected as of 11/04 6:32pm EST
 

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The idea that Trump and Trumpism is no worse than all the politics that have come before seems wrong.


The rule breaking, the norm breaking, the demonizartion.... the polarization... to say it is all 'just the same as it has always been' is very hard for me to reconcile.




and Trump taking it to the electoral college voting day before he allows anyone to cooperate with transition? Just his right? No worse than has been done before? (and using a time when we got to DC on horseback seems a bit.. inappropriate. ;) )

Kennedy and Gore's elections were included in those examples, I think horses were a novelty on Pennsylvania Ave by that point. :D But I get your point.

I agree, it seems horrible, and definitely more than a little disheartening. But that's politics, Trump has just dragged it all onto social media and heightened its visibility to the rest of us. If the American public is horrified by what the system has become, they should vote third party. Is that a wasted vote? Maybe, until hopefully (it's the only hope I have left for Washington) enough of the electorate is fed up with our corporate overlords running things. At the least, vote against the incumbent. That's what happened in Trump's case. I think the voting majority was more "against Trump" than they were "for Biden."

If you wait long enough, you'll get to see all the bad things that eventually happen to the best governments in this world.

https://s2.washingtonpost.com/camp-r...m=4&linktot=47

"As President Trump’s legal challenges fade — and as they run out of time to make them because states are certifying their results over the next two weeks — the campaign has turned to tactics that would amount to stealing the election.
Two events hours apart Tuesday night underscored those intentions: The campaign tried to get Michigan Republicans to give Trump an electoral college win there, even though President-elect Joe Biden won the state by more than 157,000 votes. They failed there. On another — sowing even more lies about election fraud — Trump cleared a roadblock.
Let’s start with what happened in Michigan

Trump supporters in Detroit a few days after the election. (Emily Elconin/Bloomberg News)
Tuesday was the first major deadline in Michigan in the process to have declared Biden the winner of that state. Counties needed to certify their election results by the end of the day, then give those results to state officials to certify. Once that happens, the election results are official, rather than just projected.



This is not supposed to be a controversial process. But in the state’s most populous county, Wayne, where Detroit is, the four-person board of canvassers deadlocked over whether to certify results. The two Democrats voted for it, and the two Republicans voted against it, citing concerns about voting errors. It was a surprise to local and state election officials, since the Trump campaign has failed to prove in court a single vote in the area was cast fraudulently.
The Trump campaign immediately jumped on this to try to create enough chaos to urge the Republican-controlled Michigan legislature to take over and choose electors. (Legal experts say that’s likely completely illegal.)
After widespread pushback in an hours-long hearing from voters and poll workers, the Republican board members changed their votes to yes. Still, the Trump campaign got close to the first step to steal a state’s electoral results. More big states, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Nevada, are certifying their results in the next few weeks.
What happened back in Washington, on the same night
Trump fired the government official charged with helping states run safe and secure elections. The reason? The official helped states run safe and secure elections, so much so that the agency he headed declared “The November 3 election was the most secure in American history.”



Trump fired Christopher Krebs, who headed the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency at the Department of Homeland Security, for debunking the election fraud claims, many of them made by the president himself and his campaign. Trump didn’t even offer pretense as to why he fired this official.


The firing paves a way for Trump to make more fraudulent claims without being disputed by a key agency in his government.
The efforts in Michigan and the firing were notable for their escalation as Trump refuses to concede. But they also are just as unlikely as all the legal challenges to change the actual results. Biden won, and there’s less and less Trump can do about it.
What do you want to know about Georgia?
For The Fix’s live chat on Thursday, we will be hosting a special guest, Greg Bluestein, political reporter for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, who was a huge reader favorite on our list of outstanding state politics reporters.
Join us from 12 to 1 p.m. Thursday, but you can get your questions in at this link anytime.

Georgia Senate runoff candidates Raphael Warnock (D) vs. Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R) and Sen. David Perdue (R) vs. Jon Ossoff (D). (Bloomberg News)
The state of play on the two Georgia runoffs that will decide which party controls the U.S. Senate is: It’s close.
Both sides know that whoever wins will have done so because they motivated more of their voters to turn out. Georgia may have just voted for a Democrat for president for the first time in decades, but Republicans running for Senate got more votes than the Democrats.
The challenge for Republicans in these races — and it’s something they’ve expressed privately — is whether Georgia Republican voters will be as motivated to turn out now that Trump isn’t on the ballot and has lost reelection."

He is starting a coup. Illegally, I might add.

History will not look kindly upon this clown.

Not Really.

Michael Flynn has already stated that Trump should declare martial law.
https://www.recordonline.com/story/o...on/3861399001/

And the Trumpster keeps saying that Biden will take away our rights.