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AzX5 10-23-2008 09:54 AM

Or another opinion is that there is fraud by the pollsters themselves. I believe there is an obvious bias by most of the polls. For example, I open the paper this morning to find an AP article claiming Obama's national lead over McCain has NARROWED to only ONE PERCENT:

"Nationally, an Associated Press-GfK poll shows McCain and Obama essentially even among likely voters, possible evidence of a tightened race 12 days before the Nov. 4 election. The poll found Obama at 44 percent and McCain at 43 percent, statistically insignificant and a change from a similar survey three weeks earlier that found Obama with a 7-point lead."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT

I then get on the internet, and today's Reuters headline states that Obama's national lead on McCain GROWS to 12 PERCENT:

"Obama leads McCain 52 percent to 40 percent among likely voters in the latest three-day tracking poll, which had a margin of error of 2.9 points. Obama has made steady gains over the last four days and has tripled his lead on McCain in the past week of polling."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081023/..._politics_poll

WTF? :confused:

Wagner 10-23-2008 10:28 AM

Again, our poll is as accurate as any other.

The AA had it a dead heat with 47/44 with a 5 error possibility.....CNN of course has it like 99/1 :rofl:

JGQ 10-23-2008 02:19 PM

This is the site that I follow the polls with. It shows all the polls available with a moving average (national and state by state). Pretty good!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

Wagner 10-23-2008 02:30 PM

I look at the AP poll, if any poll at all:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

Not to rag the realpolitics poll, but that site and its sources...way bias if you asked me.

--- Just a couple of the headlines totally at random ---
How McCain Can Win Pennsylvania - Quin Hillyer, American Spectator
- Can Obama Turn Virginia Blue? - Kyle Trygstad, RealClearPolitics
- Will GOP Heartland Beat for Obama? - David Broder, Washington Post
- Both Parties Should Lose in This Election - Robert Robb, Arizona Republic
- Rebranding the U.S. With Obama - Nicholas Kristof, New York Times
- Gird Your Loins, Folks, An Int'l Crisis Looms - David Reinhard, Oregonian
- GOP's America vs. Reality - Rosa Brooks, Los Angeles Times
- The Dangers of Liberal Bias - Joan Chevalier, Boston Globe
- Obama's Plans Are Giving Voters Pause - Karl Rove, Wall Street Journal
- Why Barack Obama Is Winning - Joe Klein, Time
- The Obama Enigma - Victor Davis Hanson, National Review Online
- Palin Drove Stake Into Centrist Hearts - Froma Harrop, Providence Journal
- The Abuse & Cheap Shots Aimed at Sarah Palin - Daniel Henninger, WSJ
- Small Businesses & Jobs Not Safe From Obama Tax - Ralph Reiland, IBD
- What If All the Pundits Are (Gasp!) Wrong? - Steven Stark, Boston Phoenix
- Punditocracy's 7 Biggest Blunders - Mike Madden & Walter Shapiro, Salon
- President Obama's Challenge - David Frum, The Week
- Biden's Bungles: A Blatant Bias - Kirsten Powers, New York Post
- McCain's Perverted Idea of Fairness - Joe Conason, New York Observer
- Obama's Liberal America - George Neumayr, The American Spectator
- R.I.P. Reagan Revolution - Dan Gerstein, Forbes
- Flawed Thinking from Pro-Life Obama Backers - George Weigel, Newsweek
- The View From Ohio - David Moberg, In These Times
- Why the Republicans Must Lose - Radley Balko, Reason
- Panics and Politics - John Steele Gordon, The American
- Wealth on Move - to the Rich - Paul Campos, Rocky Mountain News
- Palin a Drag in Final Stretch - Rick Klein & Hope Ditto, ABC News
- The Markets Brought Down McCain - Peter Wehner, Commentary
- The Media's Racist Bogeyman - David Boaz, The Guardian
- Exploring the Unknowns - Chris Cillizza, Washington Post
- The Making (and Remaking) of McCain - Robert Draper, NY Times Magazine
- Young Voters Favor Obama, but How Many Will Vote? - Newport & Jones, Gallup
- McCain's Path to Victory Goes Through PA - Charles Mahtesian, Politico
- Voter Registration Flashpoints - Katrina Vanden Heuvel, The Nation
- Dems' Questionable Means to Dubious End - Ron Smith, Balt Sun
- Obama Tax Plan Does Nothing to Help Economy - Kemp & Ferrara, IBD
- The Irony of Obama - Michael Gerson, Washington Post
- Joe the Plumber & GOP 'Authenticity' - Thomas Frank, Wall Street Journal
- Economic vs. Social Populism - Dick Morris, The Hill
- America's Other Deficit: Leadership - D. Gergen & A. Zelleke, CS Monitor
- The Birth of the Me-Too Conservative - Tony Blankley, Washington Times
- McCain's Campaign Is Both Uncivil and Uncivilizing - Ruth Marcus, WP
- Who Are Left-Wing Haters to Point Fingers? - James Kirchick, NYDN
- McCain Fights to Keep Crucial Blue State in Play - Bumiller & Zeleny, NYT
- McCain Buried Under Avalanche of Cash - Dan Thomasson, Scripps Howard
- Big Donors Drive Obama's Money Edge - Mosk & Cohen, Washington Post
- Are the Polls Accurate? - Michael Barone, Wall Street Journal
- Can't Fight The Aura of Mr. Smooth - Dennis Byrne, Chicago Tribune
- The Bin Laden Factor - Jonathan Alter, Newsweek
- Obama and the Jewish Vote - Gabriel Schoenfeld, New York Post
- Young Voters - Get Mad - Robert Samuelson, Newsweek
- Generation Jones Looks for Attention - Clarence Page, Chicago Tribune
- Taxing Time for Ballot Questions - Steven Malanga, RealClearMarkets
- Democrats Could Dominate Congress After the Elections - The Economist
- $150 Million Man - Washington Post
- Guns, Abortion and the Supreme Court - Los Angeles Times
- Metrics Are Adding Up For Obama - Charlie Cook, National Journal
- National Security Returns - Jennifer Rubin, Commentary
- Six Handicaps For John McCain - Edward Luttwak, Forbes
- The Mean, Retrograde Republican Party - Richard Cohen, Washington Post
- A Long Patrol with New Pals - Wesley Pruden, Washington Times
- Powell Drops the Hammer on McCain - Roger Simon, Politico
- Boris Johnson's Silly Endorsement of Obama - Toby Harnden, DT
- What Obama's Changes Would Mean - Michael Medved, Townhall
- How Axelrod Learned to Conquer Race - Jason Zengerle, New Republic
- The Republican Party's Identity Crisis - Dan Balz, Washington Post
- Obama's New Tax Welfare - Peter Ferrara, National Review
- What Biden Implied - William Kristol, Weekly Standard
- Here Comes Big Government - William Rusher, Townhall
- The Comprehensive Argument Against Obama - Benson, Ham & Morrissey, Hot Air
- The Economy Fares Better Under Dems - Larry Bartels, CS Monitor
- Twin Giants of Postwar Liberalism - John Harris, Politico
- One Cool Customer - Paul Waldman, The American Prospect

AVB-AMG 11-03-2008 06:55 PM

Ok... Last time now:
If anyone wants to register their vote here who has not done so, now is the time.
AVB-AMG

Quicksilver 11-03-2008 10:12 PM

Yep come on folks;

Lets see how close we get % wise

Eric5273 11-04-2008 12:37 AM

McCain 49.1%
Obama 48.3%

AzX5 11-04-2008 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric5273
McCain 49.1%
Obama 48.3%

Is this your prediction for the national popular vote? If so, what do you predict for the electoral college?

Yesterday's projected electoral votes:

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e..._NOV3_2008.jpg

Eric5273 11-04-2008 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzX5
Is this your prediction for the national popular vote? If so, what do you predict for the electoral college?

I would guess McCain squeaks it out by a single state and just barely wins.

Logic would say that Obama would win, but I just don't think he will be allowed to be president. It would really shock me.

Kewl X5 11-04-2008 02:55 PM

So, will it be Obama wins Popular votes and McCain wins the Electoral College votes?


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