Shot over an Obama t-shirt?
 

Regardless of my support of Senator Obama, this is the exact reason why I will not place a yard sign on my property.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,434311,00.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...a-T-shirt.html

Sad!

I saw a young African American man wearing Obama's Time magazine Cover on his T-Shirt several month back with something like "I could be that too."

As an Obama's supporter and as Non African American my choice for a candidate has nothing to do with his race. I hope all of his supporters feels the same way.

It is very unfortunate that race of the candidate is even an issues, to any race I must say...

I spend many days driving around downtown Atlanta and going into residents homes for my job. I can tell you from my personal experience, Obama is more of a celebtrity than a presidential candidate. On more that one occasion I have seen people selling Obama t-shirts, posters, etc. along the sides of the road. I went into a house today where the black homeowners had a t-shirt on a chair. It had Obama and MLK on the front, TOGETHER. I mean WTF? Something tells me that they are not that into Obama just for his politics.

It definately goes both ways, but it sure seems like there are a ton of people interested in Obama just because he could be the first black (half black) president and not because of what he stands for or what they think he can actually do for the country.

There could also be another perspective.

It could also be that both are true. That there's is a certain amount of pride in the fact that he could be the first black (half black) president, and they are buying what he stands for, and they think he can actually do something positive for the country.

Nothing unreasonable about any of that imo. ( The "T" Shirt part aint necessary though)

You may be right and there absolutely should be some amount pride in the fact that he may be the first black president regardless of what percentage of color he actually is. The first black president is long overdue, IMO. I am just not sure he is the right man for the job. I would hate to see him voted into office primarily based on color (being the first black president) when he may not be the best candidate. In other words, I don't think he should win just to show that the White House is an EOE.

In my little microcosm and from my own personal experience it just seems like many are primarily for Obama based on his color first and his qualifications second.

Like I said though, that goes both ways for sure. He is also not going to get votes based on his color which is equally as wrong.

Oh, and going back to the original post, being shot over an Obama shirt is flat out barbaric.

The interesting part of this is that many will say race shouldn't be an issue and we can all agree that perhaps it shouldn't be.

However the fact is Mr. Obama (love him or hate him) has done something that has never been done before and one of the only reasons why this race is being watched with such interest (weather some would like to admit it or not) is #1 because of what he is and #2 weather America is going to say.........Ok let's do this.

People (or should i say the world) is watching to see what's going to happen. :dunno:

:iagree: I rarely, if ever, peruse the threads dealing with politics, but I think Chris Rock said it well, when he said that it's as if everyone thinks black America doesn't vote on the issues, but instead votes based on race. Paraphrasing his comment: "It's as if on OUR ballots there are options such as: Vanilla, or Chocolate? Ahhh, I'll choose chocolate!" Unfortunately, race will factor in to this election, in both positive and negative ways, that's just the nature of the beast. The black people I know who're planning on supporting Mr. Obama are, in fact, voting based on their interpretation of his views of the issues, and how those views affect them.

Kill the Messenger!

The reason I brought up the Obama/MLK shirt and that I feel a lot of black people in Atlanta are planning on voting for him based on color first is because Atlanta is very different than most other major cities. To put it simply, white southerners are not the only ones who are behind the times as far as race issues go. That definately goes both ways, especially here.

To give a prime example of what I am talking about in this city would be the Michael Vick fiasco. Even though the guy was convicted of participating/funding illegal dog fighting and had a hand in the death of numerous dogs, the vast majority of Atlanta's black residents supported him, protested for him, went on record and TV saying that dogfighting wasn't that bad and they were only animals so what was the big deal. It was on the news everyday for months. To this day, you will still see tons of Vick jerseys at the Falcons games. If Vick were a white QB, they would have most definately not reacted the same way. Vick was so beloved by Atlanta's black residents primarily because he was the first black QB to get drafted #1, but more importantly, he was the first black QB to play for the Falcons. You could see how Atlanta's black residents took pride in him as well and were blinded by everything he was doing off the field because of color, IMO.

Atlanta is a very different place, IMO. On both sides of the coin. That is what I see on a daily basis and where I draw my opinions from.

This is a prime example why some people may think that there are a significant amount of black people that vote based on color first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_CE5Q-gKZE

And I've always thought Obama was ~50% Caucasian and ~50%
African. :confused:

That was what I thought too.
I wonder what you will call half Asian half Caucasian?
I wonder what we will call Half Asian half Black?

It's confusing really, if someone that is half white and half black is considered black.

I agree. Unfortunately, this "rule of thumb" has been promulgated in law and supported by the U.S. Supreme Court. They refer to it as the "One Drop Rule." Although it has been overturned, Plessy v. Ferguson is one such case.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plessy_v._ferguson

What a freakin' train wreck :rofl:

blackanese or blasian. :rofl:

Lets be honest people. Black americans have been treating Obama like he is 110% black man, when in actuality it is 50%. Historically, black people are not so quick to accept mixed people like this and take them in as their own. Like I said, I have actually seen shirts here in Atlanta with him and MLK together. I don't like being politically correct, so it is completely laughable to sit here and read these post that it is not racial and that "most" of black America has not adopted this guy as their own and that there are not tons of black people that are voting for him primarily becaue he is black. Wake up people. Stop being so politically correct.

First, I must have missed that chapter in the handbook about "black people are not so quick to accept mixed people."

Second, since the 1960's blacks have voted heavily for the democratic party, regardless of race.

Third, there is another black person running for president, Cynthia Mckinney. By your statement, she should be getting at least 99% of the black female vote.

Fourth, When Alan Keys ran... how many black votes did he get? Not many.

Fifth, black folks were not completely sold on Obama at the start of his campaign. In fact, my own house was divided. I was for Obama... my wife was for Clinton.

Sixth, And why are we trying to divide Obama up between his black half and his white half? If he was required to check a box that asked "White, Black, Hispanic(non-black), Asian, Native American, or Pacific Islander" he would have to select black.

All this talk about what Obama is or isn't reminds me of this:

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/ch...aft/3286207855

But your excuses for Cynthia McKinney and Alan Keys shouldn't matter. The only thing that should matter, at least according to you, is the fact that they are black. Yes, Cynthia McKinney is the presidential nominee for the Green Party.

Being of mixed heritage is more than just skin color. You cannot look at a person and tell whether they are mixed. Was Thurgood Marshall? No. Was Cab Calloway? No. Is Colin Powell? No. How about Harold Ford, Jr? No. (I tried to think of the fairest skinned black folks to prove this point) But you know who is? Slash from Guns and Roses. There are plenty of fairer skinned blacks than Obama that are not of mixed heritage. Granted, there are hardly any African American decendant of slaves that are without some mixed heritage in their ancestry, not even the darkest of us.

Sure, there are some intraracial issues among blacks, but it has nothing to do with not accepting mixed people.

I thought it was kinda funny that Barack was advertising in video games. His campaign is just ahead of the game!

Just thought I'd note we are probably all of mixed heritage. I can find some agreement with the fact that blacks seem to inherently vote democrat. IMO that really doesn't make it any better than simply voting on skin tone. If you'd like to see an example of crappy voting based on not understanding facts and simply voting democrat, come to Maryland and check out Martin O'Malley. He ruined the city of Baltimore and is now ruining the state voted in by primarily 3 counties in Maryland. :(

Obama has simply changed the way you win an election by playing down to the lowest denominator, video games, T-shirts for sale at mall kiosks, etc. It isn't necessarily bad. I mean if you're trying to get someone elected why not take the American Idol approach? Look how successful it is. This will be a defining election in a couple ways including seeing if these amounts of people who are "excited" about Obama actually show up to vote for him. The "youth" vote or "new voter" vote has routinely been a disappointment, but maybe that will be different this year.

You've got to be where the voters are.

Agreed. :thumbup: