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crystalworks 09-10-2020 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Maruzo (Post 1191038)
He would have become a nJust my opinion of course, but one that's echoed by countless others.

He is still a hero to many. And the other side also has countless others to support their view. Until we all cumulatively remember that they were elected to serve us, nothing will change. Right now it's the people squabbling amongst ourselves when it should be us vs the politicians (and certain industries since they exert so much control in govt).

The debt was always going to rise. It's a farse that either party wants to temper spending. They just want to spend on different things, all of which is a bad idea when you're 25 trillion in the hole. Our government is failing us, in it's entirety. A

fter the next for years of Democrat control, if things stay the same, I'm voting against the incumbent on every line from here on out. Party be damned.

Happy 09-10-2020 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Maruzo (Post 1191041)
Is there a point to my rant?

Yes. Trump failed us. He's not a qualified person to run the country.

Let's move on and pick somebody else.


I am not convinced he failed us.

Happy 09-10-2020 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Maruzo (Post 1191042)
Never said or even hinted that we should be a communist country.

Nor do I believe that.

But you have your bias and feel free to believe otherwise.


No I did not interpret your comment as you hinting that we are a communist country. My response was your hope was that the president would come out and order Americans to do whatever the right thing is it in your opinion. And what I’m saying is I don’t believe that all Americans would be on board with one man or woman giving an order and then blindly following it.

Maruzo 09-10-2020 06:30 PM

Every country faced the same issues because of this pandemic.

That's not the reason why we're one the countries that suffered the most.

Instead of giving us reasons why we are where we are, we need to be proactive and ask the harder questions.

How to improve our responses next time something similar happens.

And please stop excusing his inexcusable behavior.

He cocked up the response. Plain and simple.

To say he's the trigger man may be harsh, but he fits that bystander who could have done something to stop it.

Happy 09-10-2020 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalworks (Post 1191044)
Party be damned.

That’s why I never registered.

Happy 09-10-2020 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Maruzo (Post 1191049)
To say he's the trigger man may be harsh, but he fits that bystander who could have done something to stop it.

That means that Woodward could be held responsible or even you right?

Maruzo 09-10-2020 06:36 PM

LOL ok man. I don't see this ending.

Happy 09-10-2020 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Maruzo (Post 1191052)
LOL ok man. I don't see this ending.


Hahaha... I’ll agree to that. I knew right away when this thread was created, that it would be a never ending argument.

What I wasn’t prepared for is, that it would be on a vehicle forum.

Maruzo 09-10-2020 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy (Post 1191048)
No I did not interpret your comment as you hinting that we are a communist country. My response was your hope was that the president would come out and order Americans to do whatever the right thing is it in your opinion. And what I’m saying is I don’t believe that all Americans would be on board with one man or woman giving an order and then blindly following it.

I think you know as much as I do he could have done a lot more than what he did.

Again, he doesn't have to turn this into a communist country in order to save more lives this year.

He just had to make the right policy decisions and promote the effective measures that stops the spread of the virus in a meaningful way.

It can be done.

We've seen what this country turned into these past couple of months.

Fear of it becoming a communist country is the one thing you're focused on?

Where's your priorities?

That's like saying, hmm... we've all caught this deadly virus and many of us are going to die, but let's worry about this country turning into a communist party first.

We must all focus our time and effort on this, instead of doing what we need to do to avoid catching it.

Maruzo 09-10-2020 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy (Post 1191055)
Hahaha... I’ll agree to that. I knew right away when this thread was created, that it would be a never ending argument.

What I wasn’t prepared for is, that it would be on a vehicle forum.

My original goal was to provide some useful tips to avoid catching the virus.

And I think many of us, along with me have provide enough info to those of us in need.

Obviously along the way people start to worry about their personal freedom getting hampered because the safety measures inconveniences them slightly.

I really think it's a slight inconvenience, when you weight the health and safety of the general public on the other end.


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