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upallnight 04-07-2015 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by trader4 (Post 1033666)
I've driven mine with the DISA valve flap gone, with the DISA
disabled and with the DISA working normally. Zero observed
difference. This DISA is like an appendix. Little or no benefit,
source of trouble. The alleged purpose is to improve midrange
torque, which it may in fact do. Personally I'd trade that little
bit of midrange torque for a design that's less complicated and
less trouble. Whatever it's doing, I don't see it in use for typical
normal driving.

M50 intake if you want to get rid of the DISA Valve and probably the CCV.

Dark_stranger 04-08-2015 08:11 AM

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The bit that secures the flap in the main body of the unit can be pushed in, therefore making it look like the flap may have worked its way loose. My garage guy is going to take the manifold apart and check for the flap and any damage. To be honest removimg the manifold will make it easier for him to replace the split pipe as it sits under the manifold.

Dark_stranger 04-08-2015 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by trader4 (Post 1033704)
Just so no one gets confused, the contribution of removing the
manifold to replacing the intake boot is very little. Very easy to
replace the boot without removing the intake. It might save a
couple mins because the two clamp screws would be easier to get at.
Removing the intake is quite a bit of work, but I guess maybe it's
worth it if you're that worried about the DISA flap that's not there.

Agree, the DISA problem only came to light upon trying to remove the boot, as i was unable to access the jubiliee clips holding the boot, therefore removed the DISA for better access and noticed the flap missing.

Skyline 04-08-2015 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1033682)
And when the borescope do locate the flap will you just leave the flap in or will you use a borescope like in a colonoscopy to remove it? :bustingup

That depends on what you find. There are 2' long flexible grabber tools that most mechanics have to retreive dropped bolts. If it's in a really bad place, perhaps you do need to remove the manifold. But bottom line, a full investigation needs to be made.

I do think that the OP needs to ask himself if he's got the right mechanic if that mechanic does not have a Boroscope/fibre optic camera of some sort. It's really an essential tool to diagnose internal problems. Even for external issues, such as BMW V8 oil leaks, they are invaluable. I just had my Indy shop fix an oil leak on my E70. Without the camera, they would have had to remove the bottom plastic cover and aluminum reinforcement plate to see where the leak was. There's just so little room in the engine compartment. The camera showed that my leak was from the housing where the oil cooler lines enter the block, (oil thermostat). Repair was done through the driver's side fender well. EVERY decent shop should own one of these. Personally, I have a non-digital version at home, and those are pretty cheap, but still somewhat effective. Remember, it's on YOUR dime when your mechanic does not have the proper tools and has to do extra work to work around his deficiencies.

squidzilla 04-08-2015 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1033683)
M50 intake if you want to get rid of the DISA Valve and probably the CCV.

Woah. So I can swap my current intake on my m54 to an m50 intake and I get to remove the DISA and maybe the ccv? Has anyone done this? What are the pros and cons of this this? Seems like a good plan.

upallnight 04-08-2015 12:00 PM

I know that people with M52 engines were swapping M50 intakes to get a little bit more power.

Riggodeaux 04-08-2015 12:28 PM

upallnight, you know the worst part of a colonoscopy for a Gold Coast housewife?

Finding shoes to match the bag. [Old joke, couldn't resist ....]

upallnight 04-08-2015 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by squidzilla (Post 1033733)
Woah. So I can swap my current intake on my m54 to an m50 intake and I get to remove the DISA and maybe the ccv? Has anyone done this? What are the pros and cons of this this? Seems like a good plan.

This was discussed on this forum.

m50 intake on m54 head?

On my E34 the throttle had a mechanical linkage and not a drive by wire setup. You will need to make an adapter plate for the throttle body.

upallnight 04-08-2015 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Riggodeaux (Post 1033736)
upallnight, you know the worst part of a colonoscopy for a Gold Coast housewife?

Finding shoes to match the bag. [Old joke, couldn't resist ....]

Worse part is downing a gallon of water to flush out your colon.


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