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Dark_stranger 04-07-2015 01:36 PM

Missing DISA Flap (Pin still present)
 
Whilst replacing some split piping today I removed the DISA and upon taking out the DISA, the flap was missing, although the pin was still there. I put my hand in the manifold to see if I could feel the flap, but nothing. I have done lots of search on the interweb and there are 2 possibilites, 1 that it snapped and is in the manifold or 2 that a previous onver removed it? either option, i have no real way of knowing unless i take a manifold apart. That said, what damage could the flap cause? and where could it work its way into? I have the car in the garage tomorrow and debating if the pay the garage to strip the manifold? would prefer not to.

Skyline 04-07-2015 03:09 PM

Time to find a garage that has a fibre-optic camera. Like this:

https://store.snapon.com/Video-Scope...s-P742121.aspx

Joshdub 04-07-2015 03:59 PM

You can also get fiber optic cameras on ebay for less than $100 (I think I paid $20 for a usb one with led lighting), or harbor freight.

The only place it would go would be down the runners. I highly doubt it would enter the combustion chamber. If its in the manifold still and wasn't removed by the PO, it is probably blocking a decent amount of air to one or two of the cylinders. You can also just remove the manifold. It isn't that huge of a job. Since the car is already at the shop, just have them scope it. I would assume that they have one.

upallnight 04-07-2015 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_stranger (Post 1033603)
Whilst replacing some split piping today I removed the DISA and upon taking out the DISA, the flap was missing, although the pin was still there. I put my hand in the manifold to see if I could feel the flap, but nothing. I have done lots of search on the interweb and there are 2 possibilites, 1 that it snapped and is in the manifold or 2 that a previous onver removed it? either option, i have no real way of knowing unless i take a manifold apart. That said, what damage could the flap cause? and where could it work its way into? I have the car in the garage tomorrow and debating if the pay the garage to strip the manifold? would prefer not to.

Wishful thinking, if a PO removed the flap, why did he leave the pin in there?

You are going to have to remove the intake manifold to locate the flap so might as well bite the bullet and get it done now instead of later. It might have travel as far as the head it self and is now stuck at one of the valve area.

Joshdub 04-07-2015 07:45 PM

Well using a borescope would negate the need to pull the mani.

upallnight 04-07-2015 07:54 PM

There's a reason why the DISA valve is there. Drive ability will be the big issue.

upallnight 04-07-2015 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trader4 (Post 1033667)
Yes, if the borescope can get to and see everywhere it could be.
IDK if it can or not. If it can, then I don't see why some are discussing
removing the intake for inspection.

And when the borescope do locate the flap will you just leave the flap in or will you use a borescope like in a colonoscopy to remove it? :bustingup


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