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JAX01X5 08-02-2015 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by o3x5e53 (Post 1046560)
Should of changed the VANOS while you were doing this job. Other than that.. good job! love it.

I'm about to pull both heads of and replace the valves , seals and the vanos. Should have done it the first time around but decided to take a gamble , which did not pay off. Won't be as difficult this time since I won't have to pull the lower timing cover , which is a "PITA"
Start taring it down next weekend..
Any one know where to buy vanos cheap?

BimmerM3inGA 08-02-2015 10:09 PM

If you buy complete heads, won't they include the VANOS? If not, you can rebuild the ones you already have. In fact, that's what I'd do. Even if I bought complete heads with the VANOS, I'd rebuild them anyway since you don't their history and it's a lot easier to do while it's already taken apart.

o3x5e53 08-03-2015 12:17 AM

Yep, Just dont go OEM Vanos since BMW used the wrong material in them. New Vanos..better powerm, better mileage and quiet engine. You guys are lucky in America You guys can purchase from Dr.Vanos, MrVanos etc etc. Fully built..balanced and assembled. Here in Australia we have no one.

JAX01X5 08-03-2015 07:18 AM

Done some shopping and here are the results...

Dr Vanos $290 each after core return includes shipping
Vanosman $100 each you send yours in for rebuild
Beisan $110 for "BOTH" you do it yourself this price includes the tools needed to make the repair.

Beisan seems the way to go, you now own the tools to do the repair or Vanosman for $200. What do you guys think? Do you know of any other options?

BimmerM3inGA 08-03-2015 09:18 AM

I went with the Beisan kit for my E38 740i. You do need the special tools to crimp the edges of the VANOS, though. If you have them already, it's the best solution. I also think you can rent them from Beisan.

Do yourself a favor and order an extra seal. You can return it for a refund if you don't use it, but I ruined one learning how to install them. It would have sucked if I had to stop and wait for a replacement had I not ordered an extra.

X53Jay4.8is 08-03-2015 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JAX01X5 (Post 1046581)
Done some shopping and here are the results...

Dr Vanos $290 each after core return includes shipping
Vanosman $100 each you send yours in for rebuild
Beisan $110 for "BOTH" you do it yourself this price includes the tools needed to make the repair.

Beisan seems the way to go, you now own the tools to do the repair or Vanosman for $200. What do you guys think? Do you know of any other options?

I 've done the vanos repair on 3 M62 engines to date using the Besian kit. This is super easy to repair if you just follow their directions. Took care of the vanos tractor noise on 3 of the M62 equipped BMWs.

swissfrank 08-03-2015 02:59 PM

sorry to hear, that happened to me, the last owner drove it into the ground, 16 of my valves were bent.
http://i.imgur.com/tspU8HS.jpg

replaced them with these
http://i.imgur.com/p9gPhn8.jpg

Good Luck!

JAX01X5 08-03-2015 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BimmerM3inGA (Post 1046587)
I went with the Beisan kit for my E38 740i. You do need the special tools to crimp the edges of the VANOS, though. If you have them already, it's the best solution. I also think you can rent them from Beisan.

Do yourself a favor and order an extra seal. You can return it for a refund if you don't use it, but I ruined one learning how to install them. It would have sucked if I had to stop and wait for a replacement had I not ordered an extra.

Are you talking about the press? I plan on buying everything they say you need for the repair. It seems to be the cheapest way to go plus you get the tool which is always good to have.

JAX01X5 08-03-2015 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by swissfrank (Post 1046621)
sorry to hear, that happened to me, the last owner drove it into the ground, 16 of my valves were bent.
http://i.imgur.com/tspU8HS.jpg

replaced them with these
http://i.imgur.com/p9gPhn8.jpg

Good Luck!

Wow!! Were any of the pistons damaged ?

BimmerM3inGA 08-03-2015 10:03 PM

Yes, I'm talking about the press. You have to crimp the edge of the VANOS cylinder to complete the repair. That's what the press is for.

Man, those are some effed up valves!


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