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Most likely cause for a P0171 Code with M62 V8?
I've had my 2002 4.6is (108K miles) for a couple of months now and have been patiently sorting it out. Thankfully it hasn't really needed all that much - just a lot of little stuff. And maybe a couple of big ones…
So I thought I had it pretty much straightened out until I was driving it today and the check engine light came on. Great, now what! I just read the codes with my cheap little handheld code reader because the battery in the laptop I use for DIS/INPA is dead and my only extension cord is in use charging the battery in the old M3. I know, first world problems. Anyway, this is the code I'm getting: Code:
P0171 Cnf Mod11, Bank 1 System Too LeanI've been doing some snooping around and have seen a couple of potential problem areas, but nothing conclusive. How have others resolved this? |
Could be a lot of reasons for a bank to be lean. I would do a little more diagnostic on it. Since the ECU or DME is throwing up the P0171 code I would look at how much the 02 sensor is adding fuel to bank one. You can get an App call TORQUE for free and purchase a cheap ELM 357 bluetooth scanner module to read live data. Short term fuel trim will be more than 10% above normal for the ECU or DME to throw up a P0171 code.
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Couldn't I use DIS or INPA to check the fuel trims?
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Yes if you know how to use those software.
Lean conditions could be a idle lean condition which is normally a vacuum leak, but a power lean condition is when you don't have enough fuel when the engine is under load. This could be due to a weak fuel pressure condition, clogged filter, or a bad MAF. Here's a video on how to determine what type of lean condition you have. https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=re...r=dss_yset_chr |
Good info, thanks! FWIW, the CEL came on under light acceleration. That may or may not actually mean anything.
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If you never changed the CCV at the rear of the intake manifold that is a normal source for a vacuum leak.
http://c1552172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/558324_x800.jpg There's a Youtube video on how to replace just the diaphragm. |
I am suspicious of the CCV because it's such a common source of vacuum leaks on the I6 engines. I have not replaced it yet - mostly because I'm not enthusiastic about pulling the intake manifold.
I plan to do a smoke test this weekend and see if I find anything. Maybe I'll get lucky… |
Although it would be easier to replace the CCV with the intake manifold off the engine, there's a video about replacing the diaphragm with the intake still install on the engine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKNeN8tR3wM |
Interesting. Looks like it's possible to replace it without pulling the manifold. Good to know!
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