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YETTI 09-08-2015 12:41 PM

Anyway to make automatic shift faster?
 
Is there anyway to make the e53 x5 4.4 auto shift faster it's a 2006? Thanks in advance

THE VEIN 09-10-2015 07:52 AM

drive it is sport mode

tmv 09-10-2015 08:29 AM

"Steptronic"

YETTI 09-10-2015 09:25 AM

Does it actually make it shift faster?

RFaber 09-10-2015 02:52 PM

Sport mode shifts closer to redline, and holds the rpms a bit higher. I love driving the X in Sport mode on the highway. i usually have such a grin on my face, when i pull into my driveway, i forget its in sport and struggle to put it in reverse! (I'm one of "those" who back into the carport!)

crystalworks 09-10-2015 02:58 PM

Shift mode helps a lot. If that's not enough for you... Dinan offers software. I think my 4.8is has it as it shifts a lot more aggressively than my 4.4i did. Like A LOT more aggressively.

YETTI 09-10-2015 03:52 PM

I use steptronic a lot and I find that it shifts pretty slow. Is it bad or wear the transmission abnormally if I use sport mode or steptronic

crystalworks 09-10-2015 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by YETTI (Post 1050491)
I use steptronic a lot and I find that it shifts pretty slow. Is it bad or wear the transmission abnormally if I use sport mode or steptronic

I doubt BMW would add a "feature" that wears stuff out faster. I'm sure they have software programming in there that prevents over-rev and other damaging type of situations.

YETTI 09-10-2015 04:17 PM

Yea I figured just don't want to find out the hard way

Joshdub 09-10-2015 04:30 PM

Swap it for a manual

upallnight 09-10-2015 04:41 PM

What do you mean by shift faster? Do you mean shift at a lower RPM like 4500 instead of redline? The transmission shift point is based on many factors. Engine RPM, engine load, throttle position, etc, etc.....

If you drive conservatively, the trans will shift at a lower rpm, but if you have your foot to the floor the trans will shift at a higher rpm.

YETTI 09-10-2015 04:51 PM

I would it's a 4.4 not as easy as 3.0

crystalworks 09-10-2015 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshdub (Post 1050495)
Swap it for a manual

Do this, and win the internets!!! :thumbup:

Champagne would fall from the heavens. Doors would open. Velvet ropes would part.

Joshdub 09-10-2015 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by YETTI (Post 1050500)
I would it's a 4.4 not as easy as 3.0

I have read this a couple times now. The e46 guys can take E39 V8 6-speeds, and swap out the bellhousing to bolt up to the M54. I bet you could do the reverse with a 3.0 manual trans.

HOW TO: E39 M5 trans into E46 non M, must have info for all inside - E46Fanatics

crystalworks 09-10-2015 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshdub (Post 1050504)
I have read this a couple times now. The e46 guys can take E39 V8 6-speeds, and swap out the bellhousing to bolt up to the M54. I bet you could do the reverse with a 3.0 manual trans.

HOW TO: E39 M5 trans into E46 non M, must have info for all inside - E46Fanatics

You can do that with E30's as well taking the E46 6spd and bolting it to an also swapped m50, m52, s50, or s52.

I think with the E53 the problem you run into is not with the physical part of it but the electronic. I'm just guessing on that, but if I ever get an e39 540i/6 that was wrecked and a non-lci E53 I'd love to try the swap... hell maybe the trans would even bolt to an N62...?

4.8isX5 09-10-2015 06:20 PM

The way my 4.8is is setup and the way it shifts is almost instant and on demand... For a trans that is not smg or dct it moves. Not one bad thing to say in terns of shift speed, holding gears, and using tiptronic.

crystalworks 09-10-2015 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 4.8isX5 (Post 1050511)
The way my 4.8is is setup and the way it shifts is almost instant and on demand... For a trans that is not smg or dct it moves. Not one bad thing to say in terns of shift speed, holding gears, and using tiptronic.

The 4.8is uses a different trans if reading these forums is correct (and my memory serves, which is getting worse with every passing year). Perhaps they are designed to shift more "crisply" or "sporty?" My 4.8is is worlds above the shifting of my 4.4i... not that I thought that one was super slow either, but the new truck is definitely more sport oriented.

YETTI 09-10-2015 08:01 PM

Yea my 4.4 shifts pretty slow i guess the only real way to solve this and make it shift faster is software or a tune.

Joshdub 09-10-2015 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalworks (Post 1050506)
You can do that with E30's as well taking the E46 6spd and bolting it to an also swapped m50, m52, s50, or s52.

I think with the E53 the problem you run into is not with the physical part of it but the electronic. I'm just guessing on that, but if I ever get an e39 540i/6 that was wrecked and a non-lci E53 I'd love to try the swap... hell maybe the trans would even bolt to an N62...?

I bet you can find something that'll bolt up.

As far as electronics, If the ABS/DSC is coded differently from manual to auto, I bet you could reflash it. I am sure the ECU could be dealt with the same way the e46/e39 guys do. Hell, people are now stuffing M/S54s into E30s with OE management and picking and choosing which OE software features they want. It really helps that they made both a manual and auto version, even with a different engine.

Qsilver7 09-11-2015 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by YETTI (Post 1050515)
Yea my 4.4 shifts pretty slow i guess the only real way to solve this and make it shift faster is software or a tune.

Didn't you say in another thread that you use 89 AKI fuel then sometimes 93 AKI? If this is the case...not only does this affect how your X responds...as upallnight mentioned...the way you use the gas pedal also affects shift parameters.

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Originally Posted by YETTI (Post 1050516)
Just wanted to (know) what octane rating you all use and your opinion on it. I usually run 89 with the occasional tank of 93. And I drive a 2006 4.4i

The required minimum fuel octane for the N62 4.4 is at least 91 AKI. Unlike some earlier BMWs that have a required minimum of 87 AKI and a recommended 91 AKI...your N62 engine has a "required" 91 AKI if you want performance as engineered for the vehicle. Using the lower 87-89 AKI will affect performance...especially if you also consider other variables like terrain and elevation above sea-level. Using 91 AKI or 93 AKI will provide increased performance...although as you can see in some of the previous posts...some owner's "butt dyno" can tell the difference and some can not. :D


The way you specifically drive will also affect the way the vehicle shifts. BMW debuted ATC (adaptive transmission control) back in 1994..and has continued it's development over the decades.

The premise of ATC is that it will select 1 of 3 predetermined shifting patterns based on individual driver input as well as 6 additional road & environmental conditions or patterns...all of this is done automatically unless the gear shift lever is moved into the manually selectable SPORT or STEPTRONIC modes.

Driver Influenced Adaptations of ATC (based on how you mash the accelerator pedal) will select one of the 3 modes below at every start-up. This data is NOT recorded and each engin start-up...new data is measured which means that if granny was driving prior to you...when you get behind the wheel and are more agressive than her...the vehicle will respond to your individual driving style...and not stick you with the driving style/shift pattern of granny:
  1. extreme economy (granny-toe mode)
  2. economy (the average mode)
  3. sport (aggressive driver mode)
So if you don't like the way the vehicle is shifting...try filling up with the recommended 91 or higher AKI fuel and mash the gas pedal more aggressively.


You could also engage the manually selected SPORT mode...which will elongate the shift pattern of the lower gears and allow you to take advantage of the engine's power reserves before shifting gears.


Here's some info about ATC and how it works...along with the other 6 adaptive driving programs that were originally part of ATC's engineering design...and the manually selected EXTREME SPORT mode which would also include the "S" program for those with STEPTRONIC gear shift :
  1. Stop-n-Go Mode
  2. Winter Drive Program (primarily RWD vehicles prior to AWD)
  3. UP Hill Recognition Program
  4. Down Hill Recognition Program
  5. Curve Recognition
  6. Cruise Control Drive Program



crystalworks 09-11-2015 03:23 PM

I love your posts Qsilver7... always so informative.

bcredliner 09-11-2015 05:09 PM

I have and suggest the Dinan Automatic transmission software. Faster shifts and more crisp , improves acceleration slightly. I like that I can control what gear I am in. The transmission shifts at higher rpms. For $150 it is money well spent. A while back I added an M3 SMG paddleshift steering for more fun.

Qsilver7 09-11-2015 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalworks (Post 1050610)
I love your posts Qsilver7... always so informative.

:thanks:


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