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Joshdub 10-21-2015 01:49 PM

Well said. It's a shame that he won't comprehend any of that.

StephenVA 10-22-2015 08:47 AM

OK its time to let it go now. Everyone has had their chance to play nicely.

The site is for sharing experiences, resolving ownership challenges of vehicles long out of any factory warranty. The parts are what they are. The high failure ones will bring out the aftermarket, who will either engineer improved materials or they will build cheaper ones to capitalize on those owners and shops that focus on price over anything else.

Long term owners make up most of us. Newbies will come in for a quick tip and will move on. So it makes no sense to crying about parts designed some 12+ years ago. Parts fail, some more than others, some owners get vehicles that eat parts (the reasons-- see owners and vehicles for details). Gee, what a concept.

crystalworks 10-22-2015 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trader4 (Post 1055693)
If you're not BMW fanatics, then I can't imagine why calling one part
on the car crap sets off this hostility. And IMO, those tanks and
the window regulators are crap.
If you search through this forum you will see lots of
people with failed tanks, including cars at well under 100K miles. In
every other vehicle I've had, I've never seen a single coolant tank
failure. And you also have many people here that have gone through
more than one tank too. It's 2015, we have modern, tough plastics
and it's simply unacceptable to have expansion tanks that crack
frequently. As long as you keep accepting it and saying it's perfectly
OK, then BMW has no reason to fix it. The same is true of their
window regulators.

Then you digress. I didn't say the X5 is "full of junky parts". I
specifically identified the tank and a few other parts as being crap.
But since you want to discuss the overall vehicle reliability, here is
what JD Powers says in their 2015 study:

2015 Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS) by Category | J.D. Power Cars

The X5 shares the lowest reliability rating on the list, 2 stars, while
the best SUV has 5 stars. Presumably they use real data and are not
out to lie and screw BMW. I could show you more too, but too many
folks on here just can't stand the facts.

Those ratings are for the 2015 X5... and JD won't let you see the E53 anymore as it's so old now. Not that I care what JD says about a car. But the 2008 X5 also has a 2 star rating in dependability but a 4 star rating in performance/design just like the 2015. So just like any other decision you have to decide what's important to you. We all choose to drive these things because of the way they drive and look. If we were concerned with absolute reliability and low maintenance costs we'd be in Hondas or Toyotas.

As for BMW putting crap plastic and seeing failures of it in expansion tanks... like I said, this is a forum. You are going to see the failures. No random owner pops in to say "Hi guys, new here, just signing it to say my expansion tank just ticked 200,000 miles. Have a good day." BMW doesn't have to design a part to last 200,000 miles... they design it to last 100,000 and then the typical BMW buyer will buy a new one. People like you, me, and the others on the forum are not necessarily BMW's target audience. But they do make cars that drive fantastically well and so we have to deal with changing certain parts when they fail or preventatively. It's always been that way with certain parts. No one complains about a timing belt service interval do they?

As for the regulators... those are a common failure in many vehicles. Obviously some more than others. But literally just a few minutes ago I got a text from a buddy who replaced his second window regulator on his C5 vette. So it happens... that's just the way it is.

You attract the hostility in the way you deliver your posts. And your extreme stubborn nature keeps fanning the flames. I don't know why people are focusing on age in your case... I've seen some pretty immature 50 year olds. It's not limited to younger people. But if you take a second to answer your own question about why you're attracting the hostility... you should be able to come up with the answer.

luvmy03E53 10-22-2015 10:49 AM

... wait for it... :D

Ricky Bobby 10-22-2015 10:53 AM

Did I not say trader was going to reference Consumer Reports? (JD Power is an equal to that IMO)

He has plenty of time on his hands, I don't know why he doesn't design a superior window regulator or expansion tank lol

luvmy03E53 10-22-2015 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 1055709)
He has plenty of time on his hands, I don't know why he doesn't design a superior window regulator or expansion tank lol

And go broke when the damn thing lasts so long no one needs replacements... :thumbup:

I'll probably regret saying this, but it's called "designed obsolescence". Who hasn't heard of it?? :dunno:

TiAgX5 10-22-2015 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 1055709)
Did I not say trader was going to reference Consumer Reports? (JD Power is an equal to that IMO).......

Those two are the biggest jokes when it comes to rating vehicles.

When I purchased my first Viper (1994 MY, sig pic), they both stated, no airbags, no ABS, no DSC, no traction control.......no review. They almost called it a deathtrap, as if you drove one, you were going to die!

No understanding of cars built for drivers.

StephenVA 10-22-2015 06:55 PM

:thumbup:


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