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Plattus1000 03-14-2016 01:33 AM

They were closed today but I did get a call from them. I said that I'd be happy to take a test drive this week.
This should be fun. I'm thinking it's a 4.4 engine in a 4.6is chassis.

TiAgX5 03-14-2016 08:28 AM

Let us know how it goes Plattus1000

The 7000 4.6 vs 6200 4.4 RPM redline will be a DEAD giveaway!

Plattus1000 03-14-2016 05:18 PM

The truck looks nice but there were hints that it wasn't a 4.6 engine the secondary air valves in the air box didn't open when he started it and he couldn't explain the milage discrepancy from the carfax. Claimed they bought it as a "mechanical total" and did the timing guides.
I left when he wouldn't let me put a scan tool on the rig.
Pass and avoid.

TiAgX5 03-14-2016 05:32 PM

Wow!

That's a REALLY shady move. Not allowing a potential purchaser to scan the vehicle.

As stated prior, some fool will buy this then complain about BMWs being a POS.

Plattus1000 03-14-2016 06:02 PM

He just called me back to tell me that carfax can be wrong sometimes. I reminded him about the light on the 4.4 instrument cluster. "that's how we bought the car"
Sketchy.

TiAgX5 03-14-2016 06:28 PM

Won't let you scan, and Carfax is wrong?

This used car lot is total garbage.

A scan would vindicate the vehicle if he thought Carfax was REALLY wrong!

Would he let you test the RPMs to verify it is, in fact a 4.6?

BMWX5CHI 03-14-2016 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Plattus1000 (Post 1072183)
He just called me back to tell me that carfax can be wrong sometimes. I reminded him about the light on the 4.4 instrument cluster. "that's how we bought the car"
Sketchy.

It could be true, maybe isn't true. If there's too many things that don't add up, most likely the engine isn't a 4.6 and it might have other similar issues. Dealer could be in on it/ maybe that's how they got it. Some places are honest and say you can scan it and will also let you bring someone to look at it. The thing here is some people buy BMW's and don't know jack about them besides the three letters of the brand. Heck some don't even know what BMW stands for. They don't know how to maintain them/fix them and then complain and say it's a POS. They just buy them for the brand.


Is it going to bring them problems? Who knows. Maybe the engine is good and the only issues would be the mileage and different engine. When I first got my E53, I got it because I was familiar with the M54 as a brother of mine used to own a 530i a while back. The engine was really reliable and repairs were doable with the right tools. I would hope if you buy a BMW please have some knowledge and at least do some research before you buy one. I'm not familiar with their V8's and don't have the tools/experience to fix the timing issues, which is my I steer away from them. I'll stick to what I know. Just my 2 cents. Not trying to offend anybody here, also not directed to anybody. Just my opinion.

X53Jay4.8is 03-14-2016 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plattus1000 (Post 1072183)
He just called me back to tell me that carfax can be wrong sometimes. I reminded him about the light on the 4.4 instrument cluster. "that's how we bought the car"
Sketchy.

So the dealer will not allow for pre purchase inspection of the car? PPI would have a scanner hooked up to see the codes and verify the make-up of the vehicle. If this procedure is not allowed then definitely a shady dealer. At least you know what/who you are dealing with. Move on

upallnight 03-14-2016 11:30 PM

If there's no CEL or SES light on it could mean that there isn't any problem or it could mean that they reset the DTC. A scan would indicate if the codes were cleared recently and the drive cycle would be incomplete. I scan my G35 last year when I was purchasing it and it indicated an incomplete drive cycle. Brought this to the attention of the saleman. I was able to knock an additional $1,000 off the asking price.

If they don't let you do a scan, it means they got something to hide.

Plattus1000 03-15-2016 12:25 AM

For the record, I just saw a 4.6is on CL and posted it but I felt bad once people started picking the 2 rigs apart via the pics. I hadn't looked too closely at either just thought I'd let the forum know what was coming up local. I'm not in the market nor am I ever trying to endorse a CL find.
We bought one in descent shape and it still ate $14k in the first single year of ownership. I doubt we could get $12k if we wanted to sell it.


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