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masangya E53 08-30-2016 12:23 AM

E53 with M62tub44 engine rebuild
 
Hi,
I have a E53 w/ a M62tub44. has anyone know how to reglaze or hone the cylinders w/ alusil?
E53

X53Jay4.8is 08-30-2016 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by masangya E53 (Post 1086354)
Hi,
I have a E53 w/ a M62tub44. has anyone know how to reglaze or hone the cylinders w/ alusil?
E53

OMG!!!! You do not hone alusil. Its a coating and if its worn through the block is no good. If you have already started to hone your block thats alusil then you need to start searching for a new engine.

spadge 08-30-2016 09:07 AM

AFAIK there are companies that can do this (exposing the silicon crystals - same is done while producing the engine block) - at least here in europe... But it's a special process.

X53Jay4.8is 08-30-2016 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by spadge (Post 1086382)
AFAIK there are companies that can do this (exposing the silicon crystals - same is done while producing the engine block) - at least here in europe... But it's a special process.

You are correct in that it can be done but that is a factory process that has to be carried out meticulously. The coating has to be re-applied back to the aluminum. I gather the original person that posted is assuming he can take the DIYer home drill honing kit and clean up the walls of the block. If his block is scored then it would have to be sent back to one of those special machining process companies(i.e factory processing) to have the block re-done and then your looking at huge dollars. He would be better off finding a used engine/donor to do the rebuild.

spadge 08-30-2016 09:20 AM

You are right :bustingup

masangya E53 08-30-2016 10:31 AM

thanks for the responses . no I haven't even dare started honing or glazing.im doing all the net research. I hear use green scotch brite w/ special oil. theres a shop in costa mesa that does this.

masangya E53 08-30-2016 10:32 AM

the shop in costa mesa honing or conditioning of alusil cylinders on a mb block.

masangya E53 08-30-2016 10:42 AM

mahle rings
 
so after the special process I can use Mahle pistons rings?

TiAgX5 08-30-2016 10:51 AM

A little detailed info on BMW cylinders.

The Nicasil cylinders are finished with a plating process, if the block is bored and/or honed, the plating process must be re-done.

The Alusil cylinders are acid etched, this removes the aluminum from the silicon particles on the bore surface (the piston rings ride on the silicon surface). If the block is bored and/or honed, the acid etching process must be re-done.

The Nicasil blocks do not have a high enough silicon content to allow for an acid-etch process.

The Alusil block can be Nicasil plated, but the etching process is more cost effective.

Any sulfer in the fuel, combined with low operating temps (lots of short trip driving) causes sulfuric acid production, stripping the Nicasil coating.

masangya E53 08-30-2016 03:02 PM

so can green scotch brite litely be done?

X53Jay4.8is 08-30-2016 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by masangya E53 (Post 1086412)
so can green scotch brite litely be done?

I think you are going to have to find someone that went down this path of processing the block to determine if the scotch brite pad method will work. I would be a little skeptical but if there is a shop that is doing this and producing great results then it may very well be feasible.

masangya E53 08-30-2016 05:41 PM

what about just re ringing it w/out messing w/ the alusil cylinder walls. but then if the rings don't seat. oil consumption, compression?

TiAgX5 08-30-2016 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by masangya E53 (Post 1086421)
what about just re ringing it w/out messing w/ the alusil cylinder walls. but then if the rings don't seat. oil consumption, compression?

........smeared cylinder/piston aluminum, cracked rings/pistons, bent/snapped con-rods, ventilated block. It could turn the motor into a boat anchor.

X53Jay4.8is 08-30-2016 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TiAgX5 (Post 1086426)
........smeared cylinder/piston aluminum, cracked rings/pistons, bent/snapped con-rods, ventilated block. It could turn the motor into a boat anchor.

Agreed!!!!


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