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O3X5 09-24-2016 06:39 PM

failed miserably dipping the rear emblem
 
emblem itself came out good but it was the in between I had problems with so how the fuck do you paint this while it's on the car?

the area I couldn't tape off is within the 5 I thought I could just take a razor & peel it off but nope. Yes, I took it all back off.

http://media6000.dropshots.com/photo...0_b_183751.jpg

Panzer 09-24-2016 07:06 PM

Personally I would remove the emblem itself, paint it right and then reapply with automotive adhesive.

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Black-Forest 09-24-2016 08:12 PM

I have yet to do an X5 badge but the AMG ones I have done I usually give it 4 - 5 light coats and mask it off about a 1/4 inch away from the outside edge of the badge. I did my first badge using 2 coats and found the plastidip would not come out of the corners or peel smoothly. I also use a tooth pick to get into the tight spots or lift an edge. Hope that helps.

O3X5 09-24-2016 08:18 PM

Removing emblems is a huge pita from my experience. Would be my last choice lol.

Yea I don't need help with the actual process just looking for advice to get the hard spots.

Black-Forest 09-24-2016 08:21 PM

Tooth pick. and as mentioned if you put a bit more on the plastidip holds together better and doesn't break apart

O3X5 09-24-2016 08:23 PM

Will definitely try the toothpick. I did 3 coats, didn't think I need 4 but I'll do 4 next time.

Joshdub 09-24-2016 08:42 PM

Don't use a razor blade on your paint.

O3X5 09-24-2016 08:52 PM

I wasn't. On the emblem I lightly went across it, didn't make a mark.

bmw540san 09-24-2016 09:16 PM

Removing emblem is a child's play:

Hair dryer, floss and little patience.

Removed them on all 3 bimmers with no issues. I can't say the best method for putting them back as like my cars debadged.

jopecasa 09-24-2016 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmw540san (Post 1088755)
Removing emblem is a child's play:

Hair dryer, floss and little patience.

Removed them on all 3 bimmers with no issues. I can't say the best method for putting them back as like my cars debadged.

:iagree:

g300d 09-25-2016 12:03 AM

You can do it on the car but you have to be really creative with masking.

Better to remove it and stick it back on after.

PropellerHead 09-25-2016 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jopecasa (Post 1088759)
:iagree:

+2

O3X5 09-25-2016 07:41 AM

Patience is not in my vocabulary so the emblems will be staying on. I found some helpful videos so I'll try again tuesday

upallnight 09-25-2016 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PropellerHead (Post 1088768)
+2


+3

:iagree:

TiAgX5 09-25-2016 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1088776)
+3

:iagree:

+4
:iagree:

"Patience is not in my vocabulary"....if that's the case, modding/DIYing is not for you.

Heck, used BMWs with over 100k miles are not a good vehicles for impatient owners (unless they're comfortable with repair costs exceeding vehicle value every 2 yrs).

These vehicles fall into 3 owner categories......

1) Those who are patient/willing to DIY/research repairs/invest in Bentley & tools/can accept the vehicle will be inoperable for a few day.

2) Those who are willing to open their wallet WIDE to have others do the work.

3) Those who just got their license/in school, mom & dad paying for repairs.

Am I missing a category here guys?

O3X5 09-25-2016 08:45 PM

Before this gets out of hand I'm 32, an ex mechanic with 3 years experience & been around cars since I was 17. Just because I don't have the patience to remove an emblem to paint doesn't mean anything other than that, end of story.

It can be done with the emblem still on so now that I've seen videos on the proper way to do it, which I didn't the first time, I'll be better prepared to do it the second time.

mtthmpsn 09-26-2016 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O3X5 (Post 1088840)
Before this gets out of hand I'm 32, an ex mechanic with 3 years experience & been around cars since I was 17. Just because I don't have the patience to remove an emblem to paint doesn't mean anything other than that, end of story.

It can be done with the emblem still on so now that I've seen videos on the proper way to do it, which I didn't the first time, I'll be better prepared to do it the second time.

Agreed. Give it another shot. I did mine no problem. A couple tips that might help other than the toothpick:

1. Clean the paint around the emblem maybe even waxing it - it'll be less likely to stick there.
2. Don't be afraid of a wider masking area, leaving some space from the emblem. This allows for more of the rubbery stuff to grab when peeling off, making it less likely to break before you get to the emblem edges.

jsoto 09-26-2016 01:41 PM

Isn't it never going to be a clean edge anyhow, based on how you need to ~score~ the dipped finish to remove off paint but remain on emblem. Between the time to do that and the degree of ease/difficulty, I would think removing the emblem/attaching seems to be the best recourse regardless ...

mtthmpsn 09-26-2016 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsoto (Post 1088898)
Isn't it never going to be a clean edge anyhow, based on how you need to ~score~ the dipped finish to remove off paint but remain on emblem. Between the time to do that and the degree of ease/difficulty, I would think removing the emblem/attaching seems to be the best recourse regardless ...

I would have thought the same, but for some reason if done correctly and you peel slowly, the plastidip breaks at the emblem edges. There's several videos on you tube showing this.

O3X5 09-26-2016 03:45 PM

Yea I'm going to do 4 coats instead of 3 this time & wait longer to peel it off, should make it easier to break the edge. Will post the results tomorrow.

crystalworks 09-26-2016 04:22 PM

I've watched the videos and am going to give it a try on the truck before taking the emblems off. I am still fairly skeptical as I have always debadged in order to paint emblems. We'll see.

Good luck to you O3X5. Hope you have better results this time.

O3X5 09-26-2016 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crystalworks (Post 1088914)
I've watched the videos and am going to give it a try on the truck before taking the emblems off. I am still fairly skeptical as I have always debadged in order to paint emblems. We'll see.

Good luck to you O3X5. Hope you have better results this time.

Thanks. The one time I debadged it wasn't as easy as everyone made it to be. For me there's certain things that never go my way, removing an emblem is one lol. Here's my second attempt, not going to peel it off until tomorrow so it's fully dried.

http://media6000.dropshots.com/photo...0_b_203830.jpg

bcredliner 09-27-2016 12:14 AM

I plasticoated my emblems on the vehicle. Should'n't need 4 coats but more generally peels cleaner. I used an Xacto knife to lift an edge at the emblem. Harder to get it right coming from the outside in. Did take lots of patience but I didn't find it difficult. To get a clean edge at the turns I just lightly pierced the coating to get it started in the new direction.

O3X5 09-27-2016 08:07 AM

an extra coat doesn't hurt. yea I'll be using a razor to break seal so it doesn't lift it off the emblem itself & a toothpick for the 5.

O3X5 09-27-2016 09:29 AM

not as clean as I hoped for but good enough for me, some minors scratches which I'm sure compound will take care of.

http://media6000.dropshots.com/photo...0_b_092357.jpg

O3X5 09-27-2016 09:15 PM

Just finished the 3.0 badges. I have one more piece to dip but that's going to be a secret for now because I think I might be the first one to do it.

It's going to look sick though I'll say that!

g300d 09-28-2016 01:06 AM

^dude, they dip entire cars nowadays. There is nothing on a car that has never been dipped before. :p:

Anyway, so let's see it when it's done. :D

O3X5 09-28-2016 07:57 AM

I mean on the e53 x5's

jontezan 09-28-2016 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O3X5 (Post 1089020)
Just finished the 3.0 badges. I have one more piece to dip but that's going to be a secret for now because I think I might be the first one to do it.

It's going to look sick though I'll say that!

Is it the chrome holder for the rear roundel? =)

O3X5 09-28-2016 08:27 AM

absolutely not

O3X5 09-28-2016 09:24 AM

http://media6000.dropshots.com/photo...0_b_092016.jpghttp://media6000.dropshots.com/photo...0_b_092017.jpg


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