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E53 front struts failure? Anyone?
Coils only, not air.
I'm at almost 180k miles now on my original non-Sport struts on my 2001 3.0i. I've replaced many suspension components on this truck, due to failure or maintaining symmetry. So I'm wondering how long I should expect to get out of the original struts. I searched high and low here and could not find any reports of these failing. Sure, there are plenty of people who replace them at 100k (or whatever) for good measure, but that does not do me any good in making my decision. Unlike a fuel pump or alternator, a strut with reduced damping will not strand me on the side of the road - so a pre-emptive repair is hard to justify here. I'll be happy to run these to 400k if they're still working. I believe mine are Sachs. Anyone have an actual failure to report? |
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All depends. My E83 X3 front struts started leaking at about 60k. Current E53 with 129k no signs of leak.
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You'd be surprised what a new pair would do. Most don't last more than 80-90k in NYC.
My E39 had 201k on the struts and they were destroyed. I drove it back from VA and it's a miracle I didn't die somehow. Most German makes seem to have their shocks fail gradually and most people fail to notice the ride getting worse, compared to say a Japanese or Korean brand where it pretty much rides like crap at 70-80k miles. |
Mine were not leaking at 106k miles when I replaced them couple months ago but my left strut mount had big crack in rubber.
Obviously, my wheel / tire combo is much heavier and less rubber meat than yours so that's a big factor in wear. Regardless, I can guarantee you that at the age and mileage you have, yours are definitely tired and you'd benefit from new set. |
Mine were replaced by the previous owner around 102k as they were leaking. Replace them and you will most likely notice a big difference.
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Thanks for all the helpful advice here. I went ahead and swapped in new Bilstein B4 (22119261 right and 22119278 left) struts yesterday, removing the presumed original ones that said BMW and Delphi on them. Easy job to do - I'll see if I notice any improvement. So far I have driven the truck from my driveway to the street.
Wondering what to do with the old ones since they still seemed fine before and after removal. Gas pressure, damping, surface finish on strut rod, etc. all look just fine. I replaced the boots (bellows) as well. One of them had cracked, but they both looked amazingly good considering the age and mileage on this truck. I wished I had bought new bump stops ... until I saw the original ones were in mint condition - like they had never been touched (I guess that's how they're supposed to work when everything is working as it should). The mounts, pads, etc., everything was in amazingly good condition here. I would really not doubt that I could have gone a lot further with no problems at all. But it was fun to do the swap and I got a good deal on the new parts. And it's nice to know things are squared away up there. I just wish BMW would build their doors (clips, regulators, handles, handle carriers, locks) as well as they appear to build their suspension. EDIT - I'm realizing that there were a lot of things replaced by the PO that were not in the records. So I think the struts I removed were pretty new, which would explain why the new ones feel the same. Bad move on my part to replace just based on mileage. And probably best to not draw any conclusions from my reports here. |
When I bought my 4.6is I had different front struts which I swapped for Sachs units and it wasn't that difficult.
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For me replaceable wear parts on my vehicle with 80-100K miles on them don't owe me anything and are probably, in my humble opinion, near end of life.
Examples for me are: belts, hoses, water pump, thermostat, alternator, idlers, pulleys, tensioners, shocks, struts, brake pads, ball joints, rotors, bushings, CV joints/boots/axles and such. Essentially anything on the front of the motor that turns or carries fluid and the working suspension components. I take a "Touch It Once" attitude when I am refurbishing an area. I am currently in the starting phase of a rear suspension makeover (front makeover was last month at 100K) replacing shocks, upper arms, ball joints, subframe bushings, CV axles, shock mounts, and lower control arm bushings. The pressure difference to compress the new KYB shock and the Factory 2002/100K mile shock is significant. If budget and time allows, you will appreciate not having to go back into an area to replace old components that "looked" OK when you did the broken/failed one :dunno: :dunno: IMHO, those struts have given above and beyond the call of duty. Mike |
Update - after a brief test drive, with the new struts it drives very nicely ... and exactly as it did before, on the 180k/16-year original ones.
So maybe it's nice to know I'm now good until 400k miles, and it was fun and not too expensive to do. But now that I've done it, I know that these struts I removed were just fine and could probably have gone a long way further. Just offering a data point for others who may one day be in a similar situation. The takeaway for me is to not underestimate the quality of some components on these trucks. Also, I've got the BMW 19" standard wheels, 285/45/19 and 255/50/19 tires. |
Mine show no evidence of wear at 320,700 miles. I think bushings are the components to pay attention to.
2002 X5 3.0 320,700 miles 2014 428i 26,200 miles 2004 325i sold at 123,600 miles 2001 325i sold at 66,000 miles 1970 Firebird - Under restoration |
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Certainly a good find that has served you well.
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Hi all,
To those who have replaced Front struts(and rear at same time or at diff time), could you please list out all other components(with correct name! LOL) that you changed out to new as well? I have a leaking front strut at 187K miles and will be doing a refresh(I have standard sus and will be doing Bil Touring) on the front, so I want to knock out everything that should be replaced all at once. Gonna hit the rear soon too, but am curious to compile a list of the "must change" items(rubber/plastic/etc) people found as they did swap during refreshes. Anyone change out the springs(is it necessary?)? Thanks for any input/advice/etc:thumbup: Steve |
I have a sport front left strut with 8k miles on it if you're interested.
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There are a number of experiences posted here:
https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...-much-diy.html and here are some experiences on the rear lower swing arm bushings: https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...swing-arm.html Mike |
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Also for the rear upper camber and toe arms there are these adjustable units.
I only needed the adjustable camber arms to get my rear to align properly. Even after all new rear components I was still pout of camber spec until I put the adjustable camber arms on. https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...0-shipped.html Mike |
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Bought a pair of new boxed Sachs struts and strut bearings from someone on eBay last year. Guy sold the X before needing them. I think I paid $150 for everything.
I'm at 176k, and considering replacing them. What spring compressor do people prefer? I have the A-frame type; not sure it it will fit. |
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