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mrcarter20 10-21-2017 05:22 AM

Dynavin N7
 
Well, well, well. Good thing Christmas is coming up lol

https://www.jandtdistributing.com/co...nt=44100258893


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Crowz 10-21-2017 09:07 AM

Hmm double the price with nothing extra. No thanks :)

I don't anything in the list of features that you cant get for 1/2 that price from other companies.

Overboost 10-21-2017 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcarter20 (Post 1118845)
Well, well, well. Good thing Christmas is coming up lol

Have a look at the Aftermarket E53 Radio Install in Crowz signature. He has documented the complete install with the components he has tested and proven. If I ever go aftermarket, I will follow his lead. :thumbup:

mrcarter20 10-21-2017 09:31 AM

I already have and install the N6. Really the only thing I want from it is the cable that supports Apple CarPlay. I just hope the N6 supports it.


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Crowz 10-21-2017 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcarter20 (Post 1118849)
I already have and install the N6. Really the only thing I want from it is the cable that supports Apple CarPlay. I just hope the N6 supports it.


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It shows you have to buy the ilink from them to get it to work.


This is a vid of it in action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtorUcDgj3o

Which is going to cost you another $300.

https://www.jandtdistributing.com/pr...nt=28126793409

Ouch.

For $300 you could go with the newer radio from Seicane. I am NOT trying to talk you into it just point out for the money for the inlink alone you have the option of changing out the radio if you wanted to.

That just isn't fair to charge that much for that after what they charge for that radio in my opinion.

But I am truly wishing you the best of luck which ever way you go.

mrcarter20 10-21-2017 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowz (Post 1118853)
It shows you have to buy the ilink from them to get it to work.


This is a vid of it in action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtorUcDgj3o

Which is going to cost you another $300.

https://www.jandtdistributing.com/pr...nt=28126793409

Ouch.

For $300 you could go with the newer radio from Seicane. I am NOT trying to talk you into it just point out for the money for the inlink alone you have the option of changing out the radio if you wanted to.

That just isn't fair to charge that much for that after what they charge for that radio in my opinion.

But I am truly wishing you the best of luck which ever way you go.



Thanks for the info. Guess I was looking in the wrong section on the site. Apple CarPlay is really what’s missing for me for this unit so buying the link may be worth it. I’ve come to realize that stuff for BMW isn’t cheap lmao oh well.


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upallnight 10-21-2017 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowz (Post 1118853)
It shows you have to buy the ilink from them to get it to work.


This is a vid of it in action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtorUcDgj3o

Which is going to cost you another $300.

https://www.jandtdistributing.com/pr...nt=28126793409

Ouch.

For $300 you could go with the newer radio from Seicane. I am NOT trying to talk you into it just point out for the money for the inlink alone you have the option of changing out the radio if you wanted to.

That just isn't fair to charge that much for that after what they charge for that radio in my opinion.

But I am truly wishing you the best of luck which ever way you go.

I am able to connect my android phone to the Soccer mom minivan with just a simple usb micro cable. For $300.00 bucks to buy a cable to connect an Eyephone to a car radio, you guy got to stop drinking the APPLE Cider.

mrcarter20 10-21-2017 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1118857)
I am able to connect my android phone to the Soccer mom minivan with just a simple usb micro cable. For $300.00 bucks to buy a cable to connect an Eyephone to a car radio, you guy got to stop drinking the APPLE Cider.



Hahaha each just simply has their own taste. I’ve had android and it was garbage for me so I switched back to Apple. They have some great phones but it’s just not for me since most of the features I use daily just works better for me on the iOS system.


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Crowz 10-21-2017 11:09 AM

I ditched iphone back at the iphone 3gs. Its not the phone as much as iTunes. I LOATH iTunes. To me its a virus. Infesting the computer and making it unstable :)

Been android ever since. Again I don't hate the iphone just their computer software needed to support it.

Wife and I have note 8 phones. For music I just put all my music on a sd card and stick that in the radio. Phone is just for making calls radio wise for us.

upallnight 10-21-2017 11:09 AM

I have an IMAC but also use a Chromebook. The only Windows base computer is a Sony Viao laptop which I keep because it has my copy of Carsoft 6.5 and BMW Scanner 1.4 on it. Once I dump the BMW I won't need the Sony Viao any longer.

mrcarter20 10-21-2017 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1118860)
I have an IMAC but also use a Chromebook. The only Windows base computer is a Sony Viao laptop which I keep because it has my copy of Carsoft 6.5 and BMW Scanner 1.4 on it. Once I dump the BMW I won't need the Sony Viao any longer.



“Dump the BMW”....how could you type those words lmao


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Crowz 10-21-2017 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1118860)
I have an IMAC but also use a Chromebook. The only Windows base computer is a Sony Viao laptop which I keep because it has my copy of Carsoft 6.5 and BMW Scanner 1.4 on it. Once I dump the BMW I won't need the Sony Viao any longer.

ITunes may rock on a mac but on windows its bloated virus.

But since they kind of developed it for their own stuff and had to port it over to windows for windows folks I guess that makes sense.

upallnight 10-21-2017 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowz (Post 1118859)
I ditched iphone back at the iphone 3gs. Its not the phone as much as iTunes. I LOATH iTunes. To me its a virus. Infesting the computer and making it unstable :)

Been android ever since. Again I don't hate the iphone just their computer software needed to support it.

Wife and I have note 8 phones. For music I just put all my music on a sd card and stick that in the radio. Phone is just for making calls radio wise for us.

Since we use the Soccer mom minivan more than the BMW X5 for our family trips, I really like the fact that I can connect my phone to the android radio and use the app on my phone but utilize the 7" screen in the minivan. I use the app Waze for GPS since it offer "Real Time" info on the road condition. We could be driving along and the app will tell me that there's a car stop ahead, or there's a police car .5 mile away. I can also stream music from my phone or listen to internet radio such as Iheart radio.

jeffmiller 10-22-2017 03:02 PM

CarPlay still connects via analog iLink - No Thanks
 
Don't want to really get into the iPhone vs Android debate. I'm looking for CarPlay solution, the N7 seemed promising, but the fact that CarPlay still isn't native is a deal breaker for me. The only way iLink connects is analog RCA cables?!

Wish Dynavin would make an all-digital CarPlay-Only product. Get rid of
  1. CD+DVD disc player
  2. SiriusXM
  3. SD card reader
  4. Android Link
  5. Dynavin Navigation

THIS I would buy.

Crowz 10-22-2017 04:12 PM

Well dynavin of course cant do it without $300 more dollars.

Android can for $75 :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3jccRjRYvs

Crowz 10-22-2017 04:16 PM

That one I linked is just one of many to do carplay.

THIS is why I love the android car stereo and being open ended to do what you want.

Don't have a feature? There's an app for that or some cheap piece of hardware.

Newer android units like the Seicane I'm running support 255 devices best I remember PER USB PORT !

So add to your hearts content. But remember these devices take bandwidth so you can in theory just run out of bandwidth adding to many things at once but that should take a bunch of devices on a modern android unit. I don't remember what version added the usb hub support to do this. I know version 7 that's on mine supports it.

Also that device I linked is not the only carplay dongle.

Crowz 10-22-2017 04:19 PM

Forgot one more thing the guy in the video made a few mistakes. He complains you lose a usb port but you run a hub and then plug multiple devices into the hub.

jeffmiller 10-22-2017 04:34 PM

Sorry, I'm an iOS guy. Probably going to look into a traditional double-din deck. No I'm not excited about the aesthetics, but dynavin doesn't meet my needs. I'm glad it works for so many, just not what I'm looking for.

kmm111 10-22-2017 04:40 PM

Jeff, I’m also a IOS guy but I just bought the seicane headunit. CarPlay wasn’t an issue for me, but after watching the video crowz posted I might give it a try depending on how well the Android headunit plays with my iPhone.

bcredliner 10-22-2017 04:42 PM

Are there any other additions to the N7 other than Apple Carplay and Sirius if there were a side by side feature comparison?

Crowz 10-22-2017 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffmiller (Post 1118934)
Sorry, I'm an iOS guy. Probably going to look into a traditional double-din deck. No I'm not excited about the aesthetics, but dynavin doesn't meet my needs. I'm glad it works for so many, just not what I'm looking for.

The android unit works just like a regular double din and probably cheaper than most. I paid $700 or something for the pioneer in my f150 and cant do near what the seicane in the bmw can do.

But you keep your ios and carplay with the dongle I am talking about.

God I know it sounds like Im selling android units but I am just trying to pass on what I have learned. I have bought probably 300 radios in my lifetime and I have owner over 200 cars and trucks.

The regular stereos with carplay are kind of a 15 minutes and your life is set kind of deal. So if you decide to go pioneer or whatever normal double din find SOMEONE with one already like you are going to buy. When I say find one you need to find the EXACT model your going to buy and try it out. Heck take the apple usb cable into a showroom and try it out on the floor demo if you have to.

The 15 minutes and your set means whatever quirks that radio has are quirks you are GOING to live with for the life of that radio. It wont improve over time. NOTHING works flawless with apple carplay or android auto (androids version of carplay) completely. All have something they don't do perfect. The drawback with a pioneer or whatever is there wont be a "fix" for those annoyances. They only do 1 or 2 patches at the most for the life of a radio model. It takes a major goofup for them to even do those. Minor glitches they ignore.

Android devices are all app and driver based which means there will be updates for any give function. Even if the developer of the function you have now quits developing it or providing updates someone else will step up with a different app or driver to replace what they were doing. So bugs and glitches have better odds of being addressed.

So this isn't us trying to get you to ditch your iphone. You can use your iphone with the android. This is just about radio choices. If you do go with a generic double din in place of a factory look model I would be glad to help you with that too if you want. Just trying help.

Crowz 10-22-2017 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcredliner (Post 1118940)
Are there any other additions to the N7 other than Apple Carplay and Sirius if there were a side by side feature comparison?

The feature list seemed kind of sketchy but I think that's because its not out yet. I imagine they will do more specs when its released since its pre-order right now but that's just a guess.

The Sirius thing is just an android module I bet since the n7 is android based.

bcredliner 10-22-2017 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowz (Post 1118943)
The feature list seemed kind of sketchy but I think that's because its not out yet. I imagine they will do more specs when its released since its pre-order right now but that's just a guess.

The Sirius thing is just an android module I bet since the n7 is android based.


Why would anybody pre-order if there isn't a comprehensive feature list? Isn't the N6 android based as well?

Crowz 10-22-2017 05:26 PM

I don't think it is or its locked down. I haven't seen anyone modding it and I know dynavin for a long time was big on windows pocket pc stuff fan.

If it is android there isn't a way to add apps to it from what owners have said. I don't own one so haven't tried hacking one to see.

Crowz 10-22-2017 05:29 PM

This is from their site.

Most Dynavin units use WinCE (older units) or a proprietary OS (newer units).

Crowz 10-22-2017 05:41 PM

More I read the n7 may have the Sirius port built in that would give it an edge for sat radio fans maybe. Still have to buy the sat radio module but it may have a direct port for controlling it which would be nice for sat radio people.

bcredliner 10-22-2017 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowz (Post 1118949)
I don't think it is or its locked down. I haven't seen anyone modding it and I know dynavin for a long time was big on windows pocket pc stuff fan.

If it is android there isn't a way to add apps to it from what owners have said. I don't own one so haven't tried hacking one to see.

My mistake, didn't pay attention, thought it was a new Seicane model.

Crowz 10-22-2017 06:59 PM

Nope it was a new dynavin.

Went to town just now to get some fast food and while sitting and waiting on the food it really made me think of how well the seicane turned out.

No glitches or other bugs that have always been in the other aftermarket ones I had tried. Most of the other eonon units I have work fine but each as some little something you have to compensate for or take into account. The seicane so far just works. Kind of a nice change.

upallnight 10-23-2017 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowz (Post 1118928)
That one I linked is just one of many to do carplay.

THIS is why I love the android car stereo and being open ended to do what you want.

Don't have a feature? There's an app for that or some cheap piece of hardware.

Newer android units like the Seicane I'm running support 255 devices best I remember PER USB PORT !

So add to your hearts content. But remember these devices take bandwidth so you can in theory just run out of bandwidth adding to many things at once but that should take a bunch of devices on a modern android unit. I don't remember what version added the usb hub support to do this. I know version 7 that's on mine supports it.

Also that device I linked is not the only carplay dongle.

For people with an eyephone but have an Android head unit they should look into the app Easy Connect. It allows you to connect an IOS phone to an Android headunit.

Furian777 01-13-2018 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1118848)
Have a look at the Aftermarket E53 Radio Install in Crowz signature. He has documented the complete install with the components he has tested and proven. If I ever go aftermarket, I will follow his lead. :thumbup:

I think the only appeal to the Dynavin is the plug and play for people with DSP. I'd like to do what Crowz did but as far as I know its not possible if you have DSP.

Overboost 01-13-2018 07:25 PM

The new Avin Avant 3 claims to be DSP compatible. But it is twice the cost of the Seicane.

bcredliner 01-13-2018 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furian777 (Post 1126294)
I think the only appeal to the Dynavin is the plug and play for people with DSP. I'd like to do what Crowz did but as far as I know its not possible if you have DSP.

According to Seicane their unit is plug and play with DSP. If that is the case I have done something wrong. I feel sure I can find a way to get the unit to work with DSP since I have had sound for 20 seconds before the system notices the loop is not complete and shuts off the amp. It wants to see all the original components. I'm not there yet but I think anyone that is experienced with car audio equipment would have had it up and running long before now.

Crowz 01-13-2018 09:13 PM

With a mid unit I have put my Seicane in an e39 with dsp and it worked by powering one wire in the dash harness. It will be different if the vehicle has factory nav and I have no way of testing that as my factory nav x5 doesn't have dsp.

PropellerHead 01-13-2018 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowz (Post 1126308)
I have no way of testing that as my factory nav x5 doesn't have dsp.

I thought every Nav E53 and E39 had DSP? Odd.

Anyway, if it ever stops freakin snowing, we'll have our pick. Pre-facelift DSP, non-Nav... *or* Post facelift DSP, Nav.

We aim to please! :D

Crowz 01-13-2018 09:51 PM

Mine was nav without dsp luckily :)

Crowz 01-13-2018 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PropellerHead (Post 1126309)
I thought every Nav E53 and E39 had DSP? Odd.

Anyway, if it ever stops freakin snowing, we'll have our pick. Pre-facelift DSP, non-Nav... *or* Post facelift DSP, Nav.

We aim to please! :D

It gets warm Im all for helping on it.

semcoinc 01-14-2018 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowz (Post 1126310)
Mine was nav without dsp luckily :)

Likewise :thumbup:

Mike

Furian777 01-14-2018 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1126301)
The new Avin Avant 3 claims to be DSP compatible. But it is twice the cost of the Seicane.

I just discovered this a few minutes before you posted this haha, thanks so much though! That looks to be the direction I will be going. It's rather expensive (same as Dynavin N7 though) but by the time I went with the Seicane, + the ibus adapter + app + 5 channel amp and the guy to install that properly to avert the DSP system, I'd be pretty close to the price of the Avin Avant 3, and or Dynavin N7. The thing I don't like about the Dynavin N7 is the interface..seems like you cant just run google maps on it like you could the "stock" android the Avin seems to run.

Note: My vehicle has the factory nav + DSP, so I dont have a MID unit I can just tuck away.

Furian777 01-14-2018 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcredliner (Post 1126305)
According to Seicane their unit is plug and play with DSP. If that is the case I have done something wrong. I feel sure I can find a way to get the unit to work with DSP since I have had sound for 20 seconds before the system notices the loop is not complete and shuts off the amp. It wants to see all the original components. I'm not there yet but I think anyone that is experienced with car audio equipment would have had it up and running long before now.

Best of luck, I hope you can figure it out. I'm no car audio guru, I can fumble my way through it though haha. My understanding regarding Seican's claim for DSP compatibility is as it says on their site

"...
4.For cars with screen and DSP, this unit can support original car’s DSP after 2001.

Even though your car’s DSP does not work, the sound quality of the unit is still very good. It has built-in amplifier and this amplifier can drive four speakers of your original car (FL, FR, RL, RR).If you need all the speakers work, you can add an amplifier. This way of installation is relatively complicated and not totally plug-and-play."

I have sent a message to them, awaiting reply, regarding this, if I get any good information, I'll report back here. But, The way I read that (and again, I'm no authority) is that its going to merge your signals, so it wont be able to separate highs and lows to the appropriate speakers (tweeter/mid) without a crossover or something. But what I'd be mostly concerned with is weather or not it would drive the factory sub.

P.S. Sorry, I'm new here so I don't mean to step on toes of someone who knows all about this stuff!

bcredliner 01-14-2018 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furian777 (Post 1126349)
Best of luck, I hope you can figure it out. I'm no car audio guru, I can fumble my way through it though haha. My understanding regarding Seican's claim for DSP compatibility is as it says on their site

"...
4.For cars with screen and DSP, this unit can support original car’s DSP after 2001.

Even though your car’s DSP does not work, the sound quality of the unit is still very good. It has built-in amplifier and this amplifier can drive four speakers of your original car (FL, FR, RL, RR).If you need all the speakers work, you can add an amplifier. This way of installation is relatively complicated and not totally plug-and-play."

I have sent a message to them, awaiting reply, regarding this, if I get any good information, I'll report back here. But, The way I read that (and again, I'm no authority) is that its going to merge your signals, so it wont be able to separate highs and lows to the appropriate speakers (tweeter/mid) without a crossover or something. But what I'd be mostly concerned with is weather or not it would drive the factory sub.

P.S. Sorry, I'm new here so I don't mean to step on toes of someone who knows all about this stuff!

Not to worry, there's usually no way of knowing if a member is knowledgeable or not. Some take issue some don't, never know. Can always ask for forgiveness.

I upgraded the speakers and sub. Sub has a dedicated amp.

I've given up trying to communicate with Seicane. The answers to my questions have been for someone else's question.

Between input here and elsewhere there will be a way to get the system to work with DSP amp. New goal is to be up and running by the end of the coming week.

Will be working on it some this afternoon.

Crowz 01-14-2018 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furian777 (Post 1126347)
I just discovered this a few minutes before you posted this haha, thanks so much though! That looks to be the direction I will be going. It's rather expensive (same as Dynavin N7 though) but by the time I went with the Seicane, + the ibus adapter + app + 5 channel amp and the guy to install that properly to avert the DSP system, I'd be pretty close to the price of the Avin Avant 3, and or Dynavin N7. The thing I don't like about the Dynavin N7 is the interface..seems like you cant just run google maps on it like you could the "stock" android the Avin seems to run.

Note: My vehicle has the factory nav + DSP, so I dont have a MID unit I can just tuck away.

Actually if you had the mid you don't have to tuck away anything. It works without the mid.

Votes still out on the nav plus dsp at the moment.

Furian777 01-15-2018 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowz (Post 1126381)
Actually if you had the mid you don't have to tuck away anything. It works without the mid.

Votes still out on the nav plus dsp at the moment.

Oh, ok didn't know that thanks!

My understanding of that Avin Avant 3 unit is that it is compatible for the Nav+DSP cars. I'm reaching out to Avin today to confirm all of this, and if it is then I'll probably be ordering it asap. I'll report back here with findings.


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