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bcredliner 11-13-2017 04:20 PM

You asked for suggestions. There are all levels of experience and knowledge on a forum. You will always get several OPINIONS. It is very seldom that there is only one potential cause of a problem. If you had posted the video asking what the numbers mean you would probably still get more than one interpretation. The video looks and sounds like the solution but it is the internet. Key is to focus on making sure you have done all the troubleshooting suggestions and to do your own validation research and eliminate the easy to do troubleshooting stuff that will verify your own conclusion from all the suggestions. Even the best of the professionals using BMW software aren't always right. I exhaust all troubleshooting before purchasing anything to be as sure as I know how to be that I am not jumping to a conclusion.

upallnight 11-13-2017 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bcredliner (Post 1120847)
You asked for suggestions. There are all levels of experience and knowledge on a forum. You will always get several OPINIONS. It is very seldom that there is only one potential cause of a problem. If you had posted the video asking what the numbers mean you would probably still get more than one interpretation. The video looks and sounds like the solution but it is the internet. Key is to focus on making sure you have done all the troubleshooting suggestions and to do your own validation research and eliminate the easy to do troubleshooting stuff that will verify your own conclusion from all the suggestions. Even the best of the professionals using BMW software aren't always right. I exhaust all troubleshooting before purchasing anything to be as sure as I know how to be that I am not jumping to a conclusion.

Well said!!!

Opinions are like Assholes, everyone has one. When people replies on this forum they don't have the option of inspecting the car or doing some testing. We are relying on the owner/poster as to what is wrong is the problem with their X. They do not usually post data such as short term or long term fuel trim or the g/s flow rate of the MAF. Don't like some of the replies on this forum just ignore them. I wouldn't blame people for not leading you in the right direction to a solution to your problem. You have to ask yourself if you provided enough info for people to make an objective call as to the problem and solution.

hpy540 11-21-2017 02:09 AM

yes but thia is the most frustrating POS i have ever run across. I have worked on Ferrari that were easier, amd Jags which are real POS. so appologies to the long time mebers of this forum(also can one of the admis change the "mossfir to missfire in title to this thread, i am typing blind cuz the txt nox will dissapear behind the keyboard on my asus table transformer it doesnt know if it is a pc or a tablet & i am too busy spending every dime on cars to buy. a new tablet). i am just feeling the frustration. and the lack of real responses about the secondary leavers or eccentric shafts leads me to believ that this is the culprate. but i will keep at it. i will most likely part it before i spread my asscheaks wide and take it to the dealer.
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Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1120855)
Well said!!!

Opinions are like Assholes, everyone has one. When people replies on this forum they don't have the option of inspecting the car or doing some testing. We are relying on the owner/poster as to what is wrong is the problem with their X. They do not usually post data such as short term or long term fuel trim or the g/s flow rate of the MAF. Don't like some of the replies on this forum just ignore them. I wouldn't blame people for not leading you in the right direction to a solution to your problem. You have to ask yourself if you provided enough info for people to make an objective call as to the problem and solution.



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