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stiubhartach 04-25-2019 12:07 PM

There’s a whole BMW community that has been modifying and tweaking the dealer software for years. So there’s many, many options.

Don’t fall for the eBay scammers selling crap versions.

There’s several forums, but I won’t link to non BMW forums here.

This is a good starter page:

https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=561237

Note: XP works fine. Some of the older packages require it.

andrewwynn 04-25-2019 12:12 PM

Most of the software is PRE XP part of why it's so cringe worthy to me. Not likely to get real-time cam position on a generic scanner but it's worth looking. Sometimes it's easier to find things on my scanner in dumb mode (generic OBD) than full BMW mode.

Trasportador 04-25-2019 12:41 PM

P0011 on the m62tu means the motor cannot adjust timing on that bank. Could be as simple as a non aligned reflector wheel, could be a vanos gear that's defective(I doubt it) or you've lost chain guide plastic that's not showing itself in the pan yet. Inpa will give live cam sensor readings to help better determine the root cause.

XP is not required to load inpa. Can be done on win 7, 8 and vista.

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lebowski9 04-25-2019 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Trasportador (Post 1160916)
P0011 on the m62tu means the motor cannot adjust timing on that bank. Could be as simple as a non aligned reflector wheel, could be a vanos gear that's defective(I doubt it) or you've lost chain guide plastic that's not showing itself in the pan yet. Inpa will give live cam sensor readings to help better determine the root cause.

XP is not required to load inpa. Can be done on win 7, 8 and vista.

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Thank you. Can a reflector wheel become unaligned on its own or must someone have messed with it?

This truck was dealer maintained its whole life. I've already got several hundred into the car, I am trying to determine if it will last a couple years or if this P0011 indicates imminent failure, --is there nothing I can do short of plugging it into a PC?

Trasportador 04-25-2019 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lebowski9 (Post 1160918)
Thank you. Can a reflector wheel become unaligned on its own or must someone have messed with it?



This truck was dealer maintained its whole life. I've already got several hundred into the car, I am trying to determine if it will last a couple years or if this P0011 indicates imminent failure, --is there nothing I can do short of plugging it into a PC?

Well, I meant to type Reluctor wheel, apologies for that autocorrect. It's rare that this wheel moves on it's own, if ever. If someone recently did the chain guides, it's possible they didn't properly align the wheel. Good news is it's easy to realign without going into the motor, but you'll need cam locks as this procedure requires the motor be locked at tdc. If chain guides have never been done, I'd start preparing my mind for the task. Few and far between are the times p0011 and p0021 aren't directly related to chain guide failure.

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lebowski9 04-25-2019 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Trasportador (Post 1160922)
Well, I meant to type Reluctor wheel, apologies for that autocorrect. It's rare that this wheel moves on it's own, if ever. If someone recently did the chain guides, it's possible they didn't properly align the wheel. Good news is it's easy to realign without going into the motor, but you'll need cam locks as this procedure requires the motor be locked at tdc. If chain guides have never been done, I'd start preparing my mind for the task. Few and far between are the times p0011 and p0021 aren't directly related to chain guide failure.

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Even when the pan is completely clear of debris? Oil filter was clean as well. Only 118K miles... I'd probably part with it if the guides are going as I need another project like I need a hole in my head.

Trasportador 04-25-2019 04:59 PM

At this point, all I can do is speculate. I'd strongly suggest getting inpa and looking at live values. Perhaps if there is a local member with it that can assist? To be fair, I do sell complete diagnostic laptops that work on all obd2 e chassis BMW's, but do not think this will help you at this time, especially if it turns out that there is guide failure and you plan to ditch

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andrewwynn 04-25-2019 05:49 PM

P0011 Code 2001 X5 4.4 M62 V8 -New Owner-
 
Swap of CPS didn't swap the bank error so next item in the chain is the solinoid then the vanos.

There are a couple bits involved in getting oil pressure to vanos so it could be an internal bit. This engine is way too young to have chain guide failure without some extra special circumstances.

Did you say already put in new CPS? New solinoid? Swap solinoid and see if error returns.

I don't have access to an M62 anymore to make a graphic of normal cam activity but somebody might. I can do for my M54 just as a rough idea.

white46 04-25-2019 06:23 PM

From what I experienced with m62tu, P0011 usually means broken timing chain guide especially at this age/mileage.

andrewwynn 04-25-2019 07:47 PM

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...14507c8b09.jpg

Here's my M54 intake cam position requested v. actual. If I stab the throttle I'll get a jump down. Notice how the actual can't keep up with an instant Jan but if I slowly press the gas it's much closer.

When I was checking on M62 motor I put both actual values on the same graph and it will really make it clear if one is reading oddly.


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